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Doug Ford banned speed cameras. The City of Ottawa posted the raw speed data from before and after the ban. This chart shows the percentage of drivers going 15km/h or more over the posted limit. (feddit.uk)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/ontario@lemmy.ca
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[–] 23 points 5 months ago (11 children)

This is more a chart demonstrating bad road design or regulation, and the incompetence of the enforcement. Either the roads are designed in such a way that huge numbers of people feel safe driving at these speeds (because the speed limit is too low, or the road designed unsafely) or there is a large number of unsafe drivers who only stopped in the presence of cameras, and who went right back to unsafe driving without issue.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    This is a chart demonstrating that speed cameras are sometimes an effective intervention for an otherwise badly designed road.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Reports from my city indicate collisions go up with speed cameras.

    We already know speed has little to do with safety.

    These are a shit implementation of a bad idea.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    I would be very interested to see these reports. What city, what reports?

    We already know speed has little to do with safety.

    Clearly you are just making things up now. Why are you doing this? Are you really this broken?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    or there is a large number of unsafe drivers who only stopped in the presence of cameras, and who went right back to unsafe driving without issue

    ...thus proving the effectiveness of cameras...

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Only if you have cameras on literally every road. No substantial action is being taken, so they go right back to dangerous driving as soon as they aren't on-camera, as this graph seems to indicate.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    You don't have stop lights at literally every intersection. You're being foolish.

    The point of speed cameras isn't to stop you from speeding, it's to stop innocent people from getting fucking slaughtered. We can put up with you speeding where the risks are relatively low.

    Jesus fucking christ, it's like you people are going out of your way to find the stupidest takes. I think on some level, that's exactly what you're actually doing, because you simply don't want to draw the obvious and correct conclusions.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    The point of speed cameras isn't to stop you from speeding, it's to stop innocent people from getting fucking slaughtered.

    If speeding isn't a meaningful measure for safety, why are we enforcing the current limits? If it is, why are we allowing drivers to consistantly drive over those speeds?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    It's quite difficult to retroactively adjust the traffic speed, without causing knock on issues.

    A road might have been designed to cope with 50, but hidden junctions, or pedestrians might knock it down to a 30. Making it feel like a 30 is quite different.

    I'd personally prefer other, more polite methods. In the UK, the signs showing your current speed in either green (good) or red (too fast) are remarkably effective. I accept that speed cameras are needed when the other methods fail.

    Proviso, the cameras should be blatantly obvious, with no ambiguity over the limit. It should only catch people both deliberately speeding, and not paying enough attention to spot the risks of speeding.

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