▲ 359 ▼ COLLAPSE of Personal Computing | Investigation Into the Destruction of Ownership - Gamers Nexus (www.youtube.com) submitted 5 months ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 99 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 57 points 5 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) This guy is right. I've learned something from posting on the 'net, it's that: A) The average user is really, really stupid B) People will never admit they're wrong. They'd rather argue longer and pointlessly than concede a point C) If they are ever in the complete wrong, there's crickets. So I've made it a habit to break the habit and agree with people / say they're right when they are Thanks, Holytimes 😎👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago (4 children) If that were true we wouldn't have anti-vaxxers, flat earth, or religion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children) No they are right. That was exactly what we learned during the pandemic. You can lay out the most researched fact check argument you want and they still wont believe you. People are going to still say he is making shit up. No amount of facts are going to help. Personally, I prefer the method used by a lot of podcasts I listen to. They put a link to all their citation and research instead of cramming it all into the presentation. Often with some discussion items and additional information if I want to check sources. Video is an exercise in patience, because it is a horrible way to convey information, and really long ones are not helping. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Senal@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago You can't reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themselves in to. If someone has internalised a position as a part of themselves then an attack on that position is now a personal attack and will be treated as such. ( this is one reason why you see such visceral responses to what would normally be minor disagreements ) Not everybody is looking for (or will even consider) a differing viewpoint, they will just ignore anything outside of their bubble because they don't care about factual accuracy as much as they care about validation. Bad faith isn't always intentional trolling, some people are just natural arseholes ( like babies aren't trying to make your ears bleed with their crying, it's just one of the only means of communication available to them ) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) This guy is right. I've learned something from posting on the 'net, it's that: A) The average user is really, really stupid B) People will never admit they're wrong. They'd rather argue longer and pointlessly than concede a point C) If they are ever in the complete wrong, there's crickets. So I've made it a habit to break the habit and agree with people / say they're right when they are Thanks, Holytimes 😎👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago (4 children) If that were true we wouldn't have anti-vaxxers, flat earth, or religion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children) No they are right. That was exactly what we learned during the pandemic. You can lay out the most researched fact check argument you want and they still wont believe you. People are going to still say he is making shit up. No amount of facts are going to help. Personally, I prefer the method used by a lot of podcasts I listen to. They put a link to all their citation and research instead of cramming it all into the presentation. Often with some discussion items and additional information if I want to check sources. Video is an exercise in patience, because it is a horrible way to convey information, and really long ones are not helping. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Senal@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago You can't reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themselves in to. If someone has internalised a position as a part of themselves then an attack on that position is now a personal attack and will be treated as such. ( this is one reason why you see such visceral responses to what would normally be minor disagreements ) Not everybody is looking for (or will even consider) a differing viewpoint, they will just ignore anything outside of their bubble because they don't care about factual accuracy as much as they care about validation. Bad faith isn't always intentional trolling, some people are just natural arseholes ( like babies aren't trying to make your ears bleed with their crying, it's just one of the only means of communication available to them ) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[+] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children) No they are right. That was exactly what we learned during the pandemic. You can lay out the most researched fact check argument you want and they still wont believe you. People are going to still say he is making shit up. No amount of facts are going to help. Personally, I prefer the method used by a lot of podcasts I listen to. They put a link to all their citation and research instead of cramming it all into the presentation. Often with some discussion items and additional information if I want to check sources. Video is an exercise in patience, because it is a horrible way to convey information, and really long ones are not helping. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Senal@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago You can't reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themselves in to. If someone has internalised a position as a part of themselves then an attack on that position is now a personal attack and will be treated as such. ( this is one reason why you see such visceral responses to what would normally be minor disagreements ) Not everybody is looking for (or will even consider) a differing viewpoint, they will just ignore anything outside of their bubble because they don't care about factual accuracy as much as they care about validation. Bad faith isn't always intentional trolling, some people are just natural arseholes ( like babies aren't trying to make your ears bleed with their crying, it's just one of the only means of communication available to them ) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children) No they are right. That was exactly what we learned during the pandemic. You can lay out the most researched fact check argument you want and they still wont believe you. People are going to still say he is making shit up. No amount of facts are going to help. Personally, I prefer the method used by a lot of podcasts I listen to. They put a link to all their citation and research instead of cramming it all into the presentation. Often with some discussion items and additional information if I want to check sources. Video is an exercise in patience, because it is a horrible way to convey information, and really long ones are not helping. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Senal@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago You can't reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themselves in to. If someone has internalised a position as a part of themselves then an attack on that position is now a personal attack and will be treated as such. ( this is one reason why you see such visceral responses to what would normally be minor disagreements ) Not everybody is looking for (or will even consider) a differing viewpoint, they will just ignore anything outside of their bubble because they don't care about factual accuracy as much as they care about validation. Bad faith isn't always intentional trolling, some people are just natural arseholes ( like babies aren't trying to make your ears bleed with their crying, it's just one of the only means of communication available to them ) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Senal@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago You can't reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themselves in to. If someone has internalised a position as a part of themselves then an attack on that position is now a personal attack and will be treated as such. ( this is one reason why you see such visceral responses to what would normally be minor disagreements ) Not everybody is looking for (or will even consider) a differing viewpoint, they will just ignore anything outside of their bubble because they don't care about factual accuracy as much as they care about validation. Bad faith isn't always intentional trolling, some people are just natural arseholes ( like babies aren't trying to make your ears bleed with their crying, it's just one of the only means of communication available to them ) permalink fedilink source parent