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[–] -4 points 5 months ago* (4 children)
  • 1921-1922 (Povolzhye, or Volga famine), 5-10 millions dreath
  • 1932-1933 (Holodomor), 3.5 to 7 millions death in Ukraine alone
  • 1930-1933 (Asharshylyk), 1.5 million deaths (seem small, but that was 40% of then Kazakhstan population)
  • 1932-1933 (at the same time than the Holodomor, but in Russia) : 1 to 2 millions deaths
  • 1946-1947: 1 to 1.5 millions deaths

And that's only those who were big enough to be impossible to hide completely.

All of them have something in common: the central government minimised them, and tried to hide them. Some weren't even acknowledged until after the USSR fall. All of them are a combination of bad luck (war, drought) combined with hasty decisions which made what could have been a hard year a generational disaster.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Question: "what famines occurred because the Soviets didn't learn from the 1933 famine?"

    Answer: A famine from -before- that famine, the famine you're being asked to name one after, TWO OTHER FAMINES THAT HAPPENED THE SAME YEAR, and the one that happened because the fucking nazis invaded

    What a mixture of bad faith and just plain stupid

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago*

    TWO OTHER FAMINES THAT HAPPENED THE SAME YEAR

    It's also exceptionally bad faith to treat it as three famines while it was a single one occuring on huge areas. But once we learn it, the entire "holodomor" narration shatter immediately.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    You're referring to a famine at the outset of the USSR coming from civil war, referring to the 1930s famine as 3 separate famines, and blaming the famine caused by Nazi invasion on the Soviets. There's good reason that's all you have to bring up.

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