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Ancient texts already told us Ancient History (~1200 BCE) (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Let's be clear, I was venting frustration. I don't think nukes are good. Or mass acts of violence towards civilians.

but are we have a conversation on how deranged the average Israeli is, or one of military strategy?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Perhaps it's better to talk about how you allow social media to convince you that a significant portion of people should be nuclear dust.

    You are retreating from that view which I appreciate.

    I think Orwell summed up how I feel best. Seems like populations globally are being taught to hate their fellow man and celebrate war. We are being taught that these conflicts cannot be resolved peacefully and are just the way of the world. Some people just want to kill each other. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    I'm a staunch anti war person, I literally protest and march multiple times a month and am involved in a few active local anti war orgs.

    I definitely do not want nukes, or more war. Actually position I believe in is BDS.

    But I do not want to distract from the conversation that Israelis have normalized a genocide. The average Israeli is on board and is extremely racist. In Israel the statement "Arabs are people" will get you in trouble. While if you said "Death to arabs" you'll make friends immediately. And I'm talking from experience, I lived there, and have family there.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Perhaps this is where we can find some common ground. Your initial statements were a bit more murdery. I have no doubt about what you're saying about the Israeli people today. I believe that it will take a program akin to Germany's denazification (improving based on what we saw in Germany) to get things straight.

    I believe people are taught to hate and can learn to not hate. It's not easy nor is it ever 100%, but it's possible. Humans are the most capable species on the planet when it comes to learning and adapting.

    Unfortunately, I'll admit, most of my life I've seen a drive towards hate but I believe this is politically intentional on the part of the ruiling class.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I'll admit, that was more of a vent, I have to deal with Israelis semi regularly, and there's a limit on how much I can her people celebrate murdering children or casual talk about their war crimes.

    Once Apartheid collapses and theres proper justice, then zionists will get to live in a free Palestine, where they still have healthcare and free education. the only punishment the average Israeli will have to deal with is that maybe their children will hate them.

    Except for generals and the government, they deserve life in prison. shove them in Sde Teiman and treat them how they treat Palestinian hostages.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    but are we have a conversation on how deranged the average Israeli is, or one of military strategy?

    Considering your comment regarding how many Israeli civilians were better as nuclear dust was in response to:

    Even in a situation where a nuclear weapon is the least-bad option, or when collateral damage is unavoidable, the murder of civilians is never ‘fair’. And I struggle to think of what nuking Tel Aviv would actually solve.

    The latter.

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