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[–] 96 points 5 months ago (32 children)
  • [+] -92 points 5 months ago (31 children)

    Not really, he decided not to tax the rich and instead, took funds from the state (that could serve the poor) to prevent raising taxes on the rich.

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  • [–] 64 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    Explain exactly what you mean with sources. No offense.

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  • [+] -24 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    Not Akh, but did you really miss our /c/ources?

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    Second one isn't a source, and first one literally says he implemented a tax on second houses, which is a tax on the rich. I don't know what you mean.

    You also can't blame someone for not reading every comment on every post in the community.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago* (13 children)

    You also can’t blame someone for not reading every comment on every post in the community.

    It's the otherway around sunshine: I am trying to garner how much pelespirit, you, and 21 of you know about how rich people keep their money.

    tax on second houses, which is a tax on the rich.

    Blackrock & Vanguard do not own homes. Yet they own every company in the AmeriKKKa. If Mamdani wanted to actually go after the actual rich of NYC, he’d be targeting their industries.

    Also, liquidate private equity entirely.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    "He hasn't cleared the impossibly high bar I set so obviously he is trash"

    Mamdani cannot liquidate private equity.

    Targeting industry might or might not be possible for a mayor. NY has the most powerful mayor in the country but that doesn't make him all powerful.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Is there a reason why you place strawmen interpretations when trying to actualize meaningful progress?

    Mamdani cannot liquidate private equity.

    In his city, he can make it both illegal to do so, and use that liquidity for state projects.

    Targeting industry might or might not be possible for a mayor..

    Better to try where it actually penalizes the rich, than people with actual needs of secondary homes.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Can you describe exactly why anyone would need a second home? I cannot fathom any legitimate reason besides luxury for no reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Disabilities, logistics, surveys sheltering, snowbirding, etc..

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

    How would it help a disability any more than a hotel or some such? Unless it's related to weather/climate somehow.

    Idk what you mean by logistics but maybe
    idk what surveys sheltering is
    Snowbirding barely legitimate, if you make enough to afford it you deserve to be taxed for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Not all hotels have the dedicated staff to take of people say paralytic, dialysis, sun allergies, etc..

    Access to water, food, resources, equipment, etc. Bananas don't grow whene apples grow, etc.
    Mountainous vs flats, vs lakes, vs rivers, etc.

    Snowbirding barely legitimate, if you make enough to afford it you deserve to be taxed for it.

    Then go right ahead and die of hypothermia🙃.

    For a progressive, you sure like to steal from people.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    Is there a reason why you place strawmen interpretations when trying to actualize meaningful progress?

    Mamdani's actions in the first few months of his mayorship have been one of the few bright spots of meaningful progress we have seen in the past decade.

    In his city, he can make it both illegal to do so, and use that liquidity for state projects.

    Citation needed

    Better to try where it actually penalizes the rich, than people with actual needs of secondary homes.

    This is rich. Somehow Mamdani is not going hard enough against the money and also he is picking on the poor and downtrodden who own Million dollar flats that they don't even live in.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    Citation needed

    he is picking on the poor and downtrodden who own Million dollar flats that they don’t even live in.

    Citation needed

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    The Pied-à-Terre Tax and Its Potential Revenues - Office of the New York City Comptroller Mark Levine https://share.google/4ybZGPdS9SjIVlVdd

    The pied a terre tax is on properties valued at 5 million or more. That doesn't sound like working class families to me? How about you?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)
    1. Why a Google redirect?
    2. You're aware this is a proposal that never took effect. If you did read it, acquiring $510 million in taxes doesn't even tackle the billionaires…
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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    _Why a Google redirect?__

    I don't know what that is

    The proposal is what this is. The governor has expressed support. It's in progress.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    The Google redirect is how you shared the link, it makes a new shorter URL that takes you to the actual website. I assume you pressed 'share' or something instead of directly copying the URL, which is this:

    https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/the-pied-a-terre-tax-and-its-potential-revenues/

    In general it is best practice to copy the URL directly, as it is compatible with all browsers (the one you posted does nothing on Firefox) and prevents tracking and such.

    Agree with you on the argument n stuff just doing my part to educate about the Internet, hope that made sense :)

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Why are we saying that Mamdani getting funds from the state is a bad thing? Hasn't NYC subsidized the rest of the state while getting little in return from them in the past?

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    These centrists want him to hand that cash over to billionaires instead, obviously, like Biden, Obama, and Clinton did. The notion of one's taxes being used for the citizens own benefit is scary to them.

    I kid.

    What they want is for Mamdani to be as shitty as they and the people they vote for are so they can feel better in telling us that better things aren't possible.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Hasn't NYC subsidized the rest of the state while getting little in return from them in the past?

    I mean, yes, because NYC is where the money is. Manhattan is full of millionaires, and most of Upstate is either farmland or abandoned company towns that have spent the last three decades trying to rebuild after Kodak/Xerox/GE packed up and moved out.

    Can't get blood from a stone.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    They're not gonna leave no matter how much they threaten. A few maybe, but not a significant amount. No matter what, it's still THE New York City. My old sugar daddy used to bitch and moan about how he'd leave the city if Mamdani was elected and he's still there and his life has barely changed. He's screening my calls now though, pray for me

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  • This works on an intra-state level and interstate level. Usually the poorer, rural areas of a state require financial assistance to support their people that comes from the higher taxes and earnings cities make. From there states that don't have strong metropolitan centers with a lot of business and money flow require cash flows from those that do in order to support themselves. No one in those poorer states will admit to it because it also kills the self sufficient by nature image they have of themselves.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    No no no. You see, urban centers generating all the wealth and then giving that wealth to the apple pie loving rugged individualists in suburban-pretending-to-be-rural areas is the natural order. Any change to this system is unAmerican, evil, greedy city fatcats out fatcatting it up like a bunch of commies. /s

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Why are we saying that Mamdani getting funds from the state is a bad thing?

    The wing of the party that expects us to buy that the biden administration kept its promises by announcing its intent to keep their promises won't accept that balancing a budget is balancing a budget.

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  • [+] -16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Because he ran on taxing the rich than chickened out

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You mean reclaiming a higher percentage of New Yorker's tax dollars for New Yorkers?

    NYC pays more in taxes to the state than it recieves. Seems fair they get more money back for their community

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  • [+] -17 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    But billionaires owning second homes do not pay anywhere near an appropriate amount of taxes

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