▲ 828 ▼ Cisco announces record revenue and 4,000 layoffs in the same day (arstechnica.com) submitted 5 months ago by FirmDistribution@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 119 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 5 months ago (7 children) Finance should be banned permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 3 points 5 months ago (6 children) Just ban or heavily tax stocks. Oh, billionaire just used stocks as collateral for his loan? 30% tax Selling or buying stock? 20% tax permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (5 children) Bring back pensions first then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago (4 children) Pensions? For billionaires? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) 401Ks have replaced pensions for most Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) No idea what that is. Sounds like it belongs with WH40K permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) So they used to have pensions for most private workers, then they went to 401Ks which are self managed market based retirement funds. The company has a management agreement with a brokerage (i.e. Fidelity) to manage the accounts and they pick which funds you can invest in. You allocate how much you contribute, up to the IRS max. Many companies give matching funds which means you get a 100% return on that amount right out of the gate. In good years you can do very well, far beyond what pensions would've given. The money is pre tax so you lower your income for tax purposes during your peak earning years. You can still save and invest anyway you want in addition to this (i.e. IRA). You can still collect social security. Downside... You are limited in investments You are not guaranteed returns since you are at the mercy of the bond and equities (stock) market. You can lose money in bad years. You must pay income tax on it when you start taking distributions from it in retirement. The minimum mandatory distribution amount could push you into a higher tax bracket. The big push away from pensions to 401Ks and IRAs means the market has become the main retirement savings for most Americans. Wall St and financial institutions love them because it pumped trillions of $ into the market and profits in fees into the financial firms. Companies no longer had to manage pensions and guarantee returns. Most gov jobs still have pensions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago So... americans turned their pensions into gambling? And here I though I couldn't think less of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 3 points 5 months ago (6 children) Just ban or heavily tax stocks. Oh, billionaire just used stocks as collateral for his loan? 30% tax Selling or buying stock? 20% tax permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (5 children) Bring back pensions first then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago (4 children) Pensions? For billionaires? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) 401Ks have replaced pensions for most Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) No idea what that is. Sounds like it belongs with WH40K permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) So they used to have pensions for most private workers, then they went to 401Ks which are self managed market based retirement funds. The company has a management agreement with a brokerage (i.e. Fidelity) to manage the accounts and they pick which funds you can invest in. You allocate how much you contribute, up to the IRS max. Many companies give matching funds which means you get a 100% return on that amount right out of the gate. In good years you can do very well, far beyond what pensions would've given. The money is pre tax so you lower your income for tax purposes during your peak earning years. You can still save and invest anyway you want in addition to this (i.e. IRA). You can still collect social security. Downside... You are limited in investments You are not guaranteed returns since you are at the mercy of the bond and equities (stock) market. You can lose money in bad years. You must pay income tax on it when you start taking distributions from it in retirement. The minimum mandatory distribution amount could push you into a higher tax bracket. The big push away from pensions to 401Ks and IRAs means the market has become the main retirement savings for most Americans. Wall St and financial institutions love them because it pumped trillions of $ into the market and profits in fees into the financial firms. Companies no longer had to manage pensions and guarantee returns. Most gov jobs still have pensions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago So... americans turned their pensions into gambling? And here I though I couldn't think less of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (5 children) Bring back pensions first then permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago (4 children) Pensions? For billionaires? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) 401Ks have replaced pensions for most Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) No idea what that is. Sounds like it belongs with WH40K permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) So they used to have pensions for most private workers, then they went to 401Ks which are self managed market based retirement funds. The company has a management agreement with a brokerage (i.e. Fidelity) to manage the accounts and they pick which funds you can invest in. You allocate how much you contribute, up to the IRS max. Many companies give matching funds which means you get a 100% return on that amount right out of the gate. In good years you can do very well, far beyond what pensions would've given. The money is pre tax so you lower your income for tax purposes during your peak earning years. You can still save and invest anyway you want in addition to this (i.e. IRA). You can still collect social security. Downside... You are limited in investments You are not guaranteed returns since you are at the mercy of the bond and equities (stock) market. You can lose money in bad years. You must pay income tax on it when you start taking distributions from it in retirement. The minimum mandatory distribution amount could push you into a higher tax bracket. The big push away from pensions to 401Ks and IRAs means the market has become the main retirement savings for most Americans. Wall St and financial institutions love them because it pumped trillions of $ into the market and profits in fees into the financial firms. Companies no longer had to manage pensions and guarantee returns. Most gov jobs still have pensions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago So... americans turned their pensions into gambling? And here I though I couldn't think less of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago (4 children) Pensions? For billionaires? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) 401Ks have replaced pensions for most Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) No idea what that is. Sounds like it belongs with WH40K permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) So they used to have pensions for most private workers, then they went to 401Ks which are self managed market based retirement funds. The company has a management agreement with a brokerage (i.e. Fidelity) to manage the accounts and they pick which funds you can invest in. You allocate how much you contribute, up to the IRS max. Many companies give matching funds which means you get a 100% return on that amount right out of the gate. In good years you can do very well, far beyond what pensions would've given. The money is pre tax so you lower your income for tax purposes during your peak earning years. You can still save and invest anyway you want in addition to this (i.e. IRA). You can still collect social security. Downside... You are limited in investments You are not guaranteed returns since you are at the mercy of the bond and equities (stock) market. You can lose money in bad years. You must pay income tax on it when you start taking distributions from it in retirement. The minimum mandatory distribution amount could push you into a higher tax bracket. The big push away from pensions to 401Ks and IRAs means the market has become the main retirement savings for most Americans. Wall St and financial institutions love them because it pumped trillions of $ into the market and profits in fees into the financial firms. Companies no longer had to manage pensions and guarantee returns. Most gov jobs still have pensions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago So... americans turned their pensions into gambling? And here I though I couldn't think less of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) 401Ks have replaced pensions for most Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) No idea what that is. Sounds like it belongs with WH40K permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) So they used to have pensions for most private workers, then they went to 401Ks which are self managed market based retirement funds. The company has a management agreement with a brokerage (i.e. Fidelity) to manage the accounts and they pick which funds you can invest in. You allocate how much you contribute, up to the IRS max. Many companies give matching funds which means you get a 100% return on that amount right out of the gate. In good years you can do very well, far beyond what pensions would've given. The money is pre tax so you lower your income for tax purposes during your peak earning years. You can still save and invest anyway you want in addition to this (i.e. IRA). You can still collect social security. Downside... You are limited in investments You are not guaranteed returns since you are at the mercy of the bond and equities (stock) market. You can lose money in bad years. You must pay income tax on it when you start taking distributions from it in retirement. The minimum mandatory distribution amount could push you into a higher tax bracket. The big push away from pensions to 401Ks and IRAs means the market has become the main retirement savings for most Americans. Wall St and financial institutions love them because it pumped trillions of $ into the market and profits in fees into the financial firms. Companies no longer had to manage pensions and guarantee returns. Most gov jobs still have pensions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago So... americans turned their pensions into gambling? And here I though I couldn't think less of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) No idea what that is. Sounds like it belongs with WH40K permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) So they used to have pensions for most private workers, then they went to 401Ks which are self managed market based retirement funds. The company has a management agreement with a brokerage (i.e. Fidelity) to manage the accounts and they pick which funds you can invest in. You allocate how much you contribute, up to the IRS max. Many companies give matching funds which means you get a 100% return on that amount right out of the gate. In good years you can do very well, far beyond what pensions would've given. The money is pre tax so you lower your income for tax purposes during your peak earning years. You can still save and invest anyway you want in addition to this (i.e. IRA). You can still collect social security. Downside... You are limited in investments You are not guaranteed returns since you are at the mercy of the bond and equities (stock) market. You can lose money in bad years. You must pay income tax on it when you start taking distributions from it in retirement. The minimum mandatory distribution amount could push you into a higher tax bracket. The big push away from pensions to 401Ks and IRAs means the market has become the main retirement savings for most Americans. Wall St and financial institutions love them because it pumped trillions of $ into the market and profits in fees into the financial firms. Companies no longer had to manage pensions and guarantee returns. Most gov jobs still have pensions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago So... americans turned their pensions into gambling? And here I though I couldn't think less of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) So they used to have pensions for most private workers, then they went to 401Ks which are self managed market based retirement funds. The company has a management agreement with a brokerage (i.e. Fidelity) to manage the accounts and they pick which funds you can invest in. You allocate how much you contribute, up to the IRS max. Many companies give matching funds which means you get a 100% return on that amount right out of the gate. In good years you can do very well, far beyond what pensions would've given. The money is pre tax so you lower your income for tax purposes during your peak earning years. You can still save and invest anyway you want in addition to this (i.e. IRA). You can still collect social security. Downside... You are limited in investments You are not guaranteed returns since you are at the mercy of the bond and equities (stock) market. You can lose money in bad years. You must pay income tax on it when you start taking distributions from it in retirement. The minimum mandatory distribution amount could push you into a higher tax bracket. The big push away from pensions to 401Ks and IRAs means the market has become the main retirement savings for most Americans. Wall St and financial institutions love them because it pumped trillions of $ into the market and profits in fees into the financial firms. Companies no longer had to manage pensions and guarantee returns. Most gov jobs still have pensions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago So... americans turned their pensions into gambling? And here I though I couldn't think less of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago So... americans turned their pensions into gambling? And here I though I couldn't think less of them. permalink fedilink source parent