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A Hackers Guide to Circumventing Internet Shutdowns (www.eff.org)
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Internet shutdowns are devastating for human rights. We can’t rely on tech oligarchs to save us, especially when these same companies and governments are the ones to sever our access to the internet and telecommunications. This is why it's important to set up communication mechanisms before a disaster happens.

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[–] 5 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Ive found meshcore to work far better, any reason to use meshtastic?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    hiking. two groups, two nodes, no real perm network. meshtastic is better for that adhock. meshcore ia better for any planned system.

    basically what wasbyour use case before:

    1. my family is going to a remote place so we are bringing walkie talkies? ... meshtastic

    2. we need a rilable network so we piggyback dominic's network so samaritan doesnt find us?... meshcore

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    They're both LoRA. What makes one better than the other? Serious question, because I genuinely don't know.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    i answered above. the biggest problem is meshtastic is very chatty and not good for established networks but great for adhoc

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    I don't understand what very chatty means. I also don't understand what you were saying with points 1 and 2 in your above comments. As I understand, LoRA can't support speech, so walkies are out, right?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    sorry... my post was too assuming and heavy on old show references.

    ok, yes lora is just text but i was more using the "why" you are communicating. its actually better than walkie talkies because it keeps trying to get you message across. i used walkie talkie in my analogy because that's what we used to communicate out in the middle of nowhere.

    when i said chatty, i meant that nodes will broadcast messages all over the place. it can cause congestion. meshcore has defined roles and can manage message traffic better. so it doesnt get congested like that.

    to reiterate, n meshtastic, every node is the same and meshcore has different roles. maybe this will help. https://nodakmesh.org/blog/meshcore-how-it-works-guide

    i admit than posting silly analogies in a very public forum made up of different people was a bad idea. i'll explain because its very close to meshcore.

    in the show person of interest, the later season had a drug dealer have his own cell network so his calls couldnt be intercepted. the goid guys used it because an evil ai was trying to find them. in the show they setup repeaters on roof tops to increase the network size. so the network topology is the similar.

    i am honestly very happy to go more into it if i didnt explain enough here. my original comment was just a drive by attempt at humor

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    This is actually very helpful, so thank you for that. The link is informative, too. I've been wanting to get into this for a while, but the DIY-esque of meshtastic put me off for the time being. I've got too much going on right now to invest all this time to just get started, and wanted something a little more plug/play to get going quickly, with the option to learn the spec details and expand upon when life "cools off". Meshcore might be that system.

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