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[–] 0 points 6 months ago (18 children)

I like how everyone forgets EVs exist.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    EVs mitigate one tiny slice of the problems caused by car culture.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

    Carbon emissions are only a tiny problem? What world do you live in?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)
    • They still put crap in the environment from the tires
    • much of the energy powering them isn't green
    • car culture still creates horrible spaces to live in
    • crashes are still a common, ruinous, event
    • doesn't solve DUI
    • still is expensive to own, maintain, insure
    • car culture promotes isolated, sedentary life, which is bad for physical and mental health

    Just off the top of my head. If you swapped all the gas cars for electric cars, you still have all those problems.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago
    • The production emits a lot of greenhouse gasses, and requires a lot of ressources.
    • Same goes for the infrastructure.
    • EVs perpetuate car dependence, making it difficult to choose green modes transport.
    • The space they take up, pushes everything further apart, making every other mode of travel less climate-friendly, because people have to travel further.

    Better than ICE cars for the environment, in the same way that a commercial plane is better than a private one.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Tailpipe CO2 emissions are indeed only a fraction of the problem with ICE cars. EVs still cause CO2 emissions from production, maintenance, and especially infrastructure, in addition to being just as dangerous, noisy, and socially disruptive as an ICE car.

    Further, if they are cheaper to operate, the Jevons Paradox means that we'll end up using more total energy for EVs than we currently do for ICE vehicles, with all of the knock-on effects of pollution and environmental destruction wrought by automobile-oriented land use. That environmental destruction also drives climate change, and the Antheopocene mass extinction currently in progress.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

    I do. I'll just bike 30 miles to work on the highway... it'll be fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    You could put your bike on the front of a transit bus if those existed.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I used to do that in college. Would bike from school to work or take the bus when weather was bad or I was being lazy.

    Unfortunately now I live in the suburbs away from any bus transit. :(

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