48
Cutaways of the monastic community at Glendalough, Ireland, 9th century AD (Giorgio Albertini) Diagrams, cutaways, or architecture (media.piefed.social)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/historyart@piefed.social
10 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 2 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Somehow it looks like the monastic community is mixing with a lot of outsiders. No comment on that, just a little surprised how... 'non-monastic' the situation looks to my untrained eye.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Monastic communities in this period often held overlordship over a large non-monastic population in order to provide, via feudal dues/taxation, the necessary goods to sustain the monastic community. So there would be a lot of traffic of non-monastics coming-and-going, especially in larger or more prosperous monastic estates.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Makes sense, thank you. And I'm thinking that it's really hard for us moderns... going back centuries or even millennia... to be totally self-sufficient, to my mind.

    Kinda makes me curious though upon monks such as Trappists who specialised in brewing. I mean, watered-down beer was pretty much potable water across much of the pre-Ren and post-Ren reality, no?

    Oh, wait-- memory unlocked!
    Wasn't much of Euro medieval brewing entrusted to women?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Kinda makes me curious though upon monks such as Trappists who specialised in brewing. I mean, watered-down beer was pretty much potable water across much of the pre-Ren and post-Ren reality, no?

    Monastic communities often traded the goods they produced to a pretty broad selection of outside communities.

    Oh, wait– memory unlocked!

    Wasn’t much of Euro medieval brewing entrusted to women?

    Yep! As it was a task that could be done 'in the home', it was considered a respectable profession for both married women and widows.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    P.J. (uff, hope you don't mind),
    have you made a post before telling the tale of your formal (and informal) education upon history?

    I mean, I know you consider this type of output sort of 'shitposting,' but at the same time, as I see it, you're making history come ALIVE for so many, including me.

    I'd honestly like to hear more of your backstory, if possible...

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Hah, I haven't, mostly because there's not much to tell!

    Spent too much time in college pursuing a major that wouldn't help my life in the least at an undergraduate level, and spent the previous-and-subsequent years reading voraciously on the topic of history, which has always fascinated me.

    Other than the patience and enthusiasm to pour over academic journals and monographs, I don't have much that sets me apart! I can't even read any language other than English - something which academic historians sometimes rub in my face when they quote, in whole untranslated paragraphs, four different languages (sometimes just quoting other historians, not even primary sources) because "You're reading this hyper-specific paper, so shouldn't you already speak Latin, Greek, French, and Italian? What are you, a fucking normie?"

    YES I'M A NORMIE, I JUST HUNGER FOR ANCIENT KNOWLEDGE

    Luckily, books are typically less egregious about that than articles, lmao.

    😳 1
  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I can’t even read any language other than English

    Oh, get out of town!
    Me, I'm a bumbling buffoon when it comes to Castellano, française and a bit of High Latin, but you know how the meaning sort of 'comes together,' the more you look at it..? (or is that a certain brain-region thing where I got especially zapped, like my cousin, who is 10x smarter than me at languages?)

    Appreciate the honest-extensive reply, though. (my gorsh, if I'd had friends like you, growing up)

    What are you, a fucking normie?

    Struth-- the whole, hilarious, awkward, ridiculous idea of "normalcy" upon our recency (14Kyrs or so) is one of the most hilarious misfired, delusional thinking problems in Sapient history, IMO.

    In terms of Sapiens? Yeah, we're just a huge bunch of weirdos, down-to-the-bone, forgot who we were, and normalised all our "progress."

    Craig Bierko has the tale:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UnrCjw37SM

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent