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Students Boo Commencement Speaker After She Calls AI Next Industrial Revolution (www.404media.co)
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[–] 4 points 6 months ago (9 children)

It's a computer program. At the absolute most, it's a revolution in software.

And that's only if you want your programs to be designed by statistics in the most inelegant way possible.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (8 children)

    It’s a replacement for human intellect. I’m stunned by how many people can’t see the obvious.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (7 children)

    It's a markov chain spitting out the next most likely word. Human intellect involves actual understanding, meaning.

    Go ask your chatbot why a Turing machine should conveniently just happen to be capable of reproducing the phenomenon of consciousness. Let that answer sit in your head, shorn free of all that pesky and inefficient consideration.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    That’s basically what humans do too.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    You're no different from a medieval peasant who projects a kingly father figure into the heavens. The only difference is, you're familiar with a desktop computer, so that is what you project onto the great mysteries of life.

    "That's basically what humans do". Bullshit. A computer makes no distinction between the bits it's flipping. An LLM will not protest if you poison the training data and have it generate gigabytes upon gigabytes of gibberish. The computer runs the algorithm you give it, regardless of the output. The meaning comes from people, and you can't automate that away.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    Similarly, you’re overestimating your ability to think independently of external inputs. You’ve been doing it since you were a baby. You’re organic, and you believe that separates you from man made intellect.

    Does it, really?

    Now, I’m not one of those people who thinks we’re all robots in human skin. I just think that those of you sticking your head in the sand when it comes to AI are misguided. If it’s a disinformation campaign to slow or stop its progress, I totally understand that there are valid reasons to do so, but I don’t think they will succeed in the end.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    No, I'm organic and "man made intellect" does not exist yet. I don't think there's anything magical about consciousness, it's a physical phenomenon like any other.

    But I am highly skeptical of the claim that all it takes is computation. We don't have a firm understanding of consciousness. We do have a very extensive understanding of computers. It's incredibly wishful thinking to just assume the thing we understand and are surround by also just happens to be capable of a phenomenon we don't understand.

    I'm sure one day some clever people will make some sort of machine that reproduces the phenomenon of consciousness. But I highly doubt it's gonna be in our lifetimes.

    Some wealthy people who get off on the idea of being the smartest person in the room heard Roko's Basilisk, and because they devalue all humanities and have never considered a philsophical question in their lives, immediately fell into a secularized re-creation of protestant belief where AI is both God and the devil. There's no progress there. Only an overcapacity in graphics chip production, waiting for a market correction.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    You’re in for a rude awakening.

    Lofty words will not change the fact that AI can already do many jobs and will eventually do many more. I understand there are positives and negatives. Perhaps we will find that the negatives outweigh the positives. It doesn’t matter, progress will march on.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    I just think that those of you sticking your head in the sand when it comes to AI are misguided. If it’s a disinformation campaign to slow or stop its progress, I totally understand that there are valid reasons to do so, but I don’t think they will succeed in the end.

    You sound like one of those Christians who cannot conceptualize atheists. They cannot consider a lack of belief, rather atheists must believe all the same things they do, they're just mad at god. Similarly, you cannot countenance the idea that AI isn't all its been promised to be, so I must secretly agree with you, but be fighting against the computer god.

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