Rimu published yet another hit piece against the /0 instance and this time posted it in his own instance comms as well. One of his mods jumped in, admitted they don't know anything about anything, but nevertheless felt confident enough to state their opinion as fact and in the process insult all of us collectively, then stickied his opinion for good measure.

So I decided to reply sarcastically, at which point that mod insulted me and locked the thread, which is apparently a feature in piefed which simply hides/deletes further replies in that thread, but since it's not a feature in lemmy, it appears to function like a shadow delete.

This is what my last reply would have been.

(Yes I'm being snarky, but that "I'm so mature" bullshit just rubs me the wrong way.)

In my opinion, using mod powers to get the last insult in, is just bastard behaviour.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (48 children)

    Sir, I have literally no idea who you are. But I've seen various mentions of the fact that you're either an admin or a dev.

    Do you genuinely believe this dismissive behavior is going to do you any favors? Because you're making this look worse.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (43 children)

    Good to know that I was mistaken.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (42 children)

    Eh could still be a plant. You really can't take someone's word at face value when it comes to that. Actions speak louder than words and all that jazz.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (40 children)

    I think your actions and behavior in this thread make you look much worse. And this comment definitely isn't a good look on you. In the best case I would say you're at least a contrarian and a troll, which I know is a possibility considering your less than stellar modlog history.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (38 children)

    The jig is up folks, most of the people in this thread (like Mystic Mushroom here) are my alts, designed as part of a state operation to make the left look like unhinged, pathetic crybullies.

    This could be the example used in textbooks on signs or calls for help. You should really get help. Either look for therapy, talk to your doctor or reach out to friends and family.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (20 children)

    Null really is a touch off, genuinely needs help. What the hell is this guy doing?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    I got no idea, but do hope they find something to help

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (17 children)

    Concern trolling to null is when you worry about people when they make posts like senile grandmas on facebook.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    This is just getting sad to watch now

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Very. He's also very angry at me for not agreeing with him.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    Their response time is scary and impressive too

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    I just logged on and he's already stalking my replies that aren't even pinging him or replying to him. After he's been ableist to me.

    He's really upset enough to do this.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Funny how you just can’t stop talking about me though…

    You literally brought me up in another thread, unprompted, to insult me with ableism. I wasn't even mentioned. You just brought me up to insult me.

    Projection once again.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    "hey this guy keeps stalking me, including bringing me up unrelated, and then using ableism"

    "Yeah but you can't stop talking about me because I do these things, I win"

    Disengage.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (15 children)

    Not trolling, but you saying it is also a sign to get help

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (13 children)

    Both null and rimu seem to be crashing out 🤔 Is it catching or is null an alt?

    !fediverse@piefed.social mods:

    Relatedly, I miss fxomt, who seemed the sole voice of reason at lemmy.world. Their contributions have been almost entirely purged from the fediverse 😥 https://lemmy.ml/search?type=Users&q=fxomt

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    Rimu is more put together in their comments than Null, and Rimu doesn't stalk accounts and use ableist terms on people he doesn't like, like Null.

    Null just has enough accounts to forget his current one is an admin of his own instance. I assume because people got tired of dealing with him.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Being an admin also gets him more vendetta fodder: easy access to voting & moderation info not available to regular users.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    He's literally using it now as ammo that he's violating the disengage rule, and said I'm losing because he doesn't follow the instance and community rules.

    If he replies and downvotes this, that's also a violation.

    He also said he doesn't have more than one account. Which is clearly shown to be wrong by the screenshot, of a community he helps to run.

    I genuinely don't know what's going on with this guy to hate me this much. He's just annoying and insulting. Claims I'm obsessed with him when I only talk about him when I'm reminded of him.

    Meanwhile as soon as I log in and make comments, he's there without me replying to him.

    It's more sad and annoying than anything meaningful. Especially looking at his modlog.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    i think he's entirely within his rights cause you were continuing to insult him while insulting an entirely different user.

    the post got moderated for being disgusting, rightfully so

    ableism + gross

    as near as i can tell you got told to disengage 3 days ago and continued to openly insult the guy afterwards. he's allowed to tell you off in return at this point.

    it's like you're operating by israeli/US 'ceasefire' logic when it comes to this i-cant

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago

    Weird that you don't care about his ableism towards me, and that report went unactioned...

    as near as i can tell you got told to disengage 3 days ago and continued to openly insult the guy afterwards

    Nope. Look again. That's literally my whole point.

    He said disengage, so I stopped responding to him. Then he started shit talking me, unprompted, throughout the thread, which is a clear violation of the rule.

    If he wants to stop talking shit about me and disengage, I'm happy to. But if he can't help himself then he doesn't get to cry foul.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (27 children)

    i would love to hear your opinion tbh

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  • [–] -5 points 6 months ago (26 children)

    My opinion of what, specifically?

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago* (25 children)

    you seemed very sure of yourself, maybe you should just say what you think instead of being evasive and condescending

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  • [+] -10 points 6 months ago* (24 children)

    I don't think most people use tankie as a perjorative for communists broadly, and I don't think Rimu uses it that way either (which is what you were implying, right?)

    But like I said, I'm unsurprised that you feel like they do.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago* (23 children)

    i said:

    ‘tankie’ is routinely used as a pejorative for communists (and anarchists at this point) who aren’t aligned with us imperial ‘foreign policy’

    you are now saying:

    I don’t think most people use tankie as a perjorative for communists broadly

    that's a different claim; my claim was that 'tankie' is used as a pejorative against anyone on the left who's not aligned with us imperial 'foreign policy'.

    you say that you don't think it's used as a pejorative for communists broadly

    the fact that there are communists who have views which are aligned with us 'foreign policy' is not something that is in dispute on my end; you're addressing a different claim.

    we are here because i raised rimu's documented goal of excluding 'tankies' through platform design. what does that exclusion mean if not targeting anti-imperialists?

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  • [+] -10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (22 children)

    we are here because i raised rimu’s documented goal of excluding ‘tankies’ through platform design.

    Which you did in defense of this claim:

    Piefed was created out of anti-communist ideology.

    So either it was created out of an anti-tankie (and nazi) ideology, and being anti-tankie == being anti-communist (unlikely), or it wasn't created out of an anti-communist ideology.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (21 children)

    excluding anti-imperialists while catering to pro-US leftists is still anti-communism in practice; even in the cold war there was an acceptable vs unacceptable left.

    historical US anti-communism looks exactly like that in fact, revolutionary anti-imperialists get targeted while liberal-compatible communists are permitted and promoted.

    I can't take the stated desire to exclude nazis seriously when rimu has not spoken out against the platform being promoted as a place to be free from 'degenerate roaches' (referring to predominantly gay/trans 'tankies'). all energy seems to be directed leftwards and he's even posted and commented in the comm where that type of language has been long-permitted.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (20 children)

    excluding anti-imperialists

    Assuming "excluding anti-imperialists" means "adding features tankies and nazis won't like", then maybe? But I don't think I agree that it does.

    when rimu has not spoken out against

    That's a loooooong thread with a lot of links to loooooooong threads, but I think I see the comment you're referring to here. Has anyone asked rimu to make a statement about that comment? Has he even seen it?

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (19 children)

    rimus comfort or lack thereof with the promotion of piefed in the nazi bar as an alternative to the 'tankies' is something which he can clarify if he chooses. it makes it hard for me to take his opposition to nazism as anything other than performative without that.

    i don't expect a real response from him, the evidence is posted on hexbear and his stated position is 'Do not take anything a hexbearian says at face value.'

    Assuming “excluding anti-imperialists” means “adding features tankies and nazis won’t like”, then maybe?

    nazis are not anti-imperialists and as i stated i'm not convinced they're being deterred at all. if anything the open anti-communism is a beacon for them.

    I get that you want to assume that 'tankies' and nazis are the same, but as I just clarified, designating an out-group of incompatible leftists to slander as 'tankies' because they do not align with us 'foreign policy' is just straight up anti-communism.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (17 children)

    So if it is impossible to oppose tankies without opposing communism broadly, does it follow that it’s impossible to support any form of communism without supporting tankie ideology?

    you can critique specific states or policies without using 'tankie' as a catch-all for anti-imperialists.

    you propose a false binary, my point was that identifying 'tankies' as an out-group to exclude in practice excludes all anti-imperialist leftists while allowing pro-US ones. it is selective anti-communism and is no different from how it operated in the height of the cold war.

    rimu rhetorically equates 'tankies' and nazis, but all the energy i've seen in practice seems to be focused on the 'tankies' and presenting an alternative free from their 'influence' (ie, free from voices opposed to us imperialism)

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (15 children)

    fascism is more specifically for ethnonationalists, not just pro-capitalist right wingers. fascism is compatible with capitalism and so there's overlap.

    anti-imperialists oppose ethnostates and colonialism and that's why there's so much overlap between zionists and fascists in opposing 'tankies'. support for israel (a jewish ethnostate) is support for fascism regardless of other politics.

    the question you pose feels like setting up the deflection of 'see you just call everyone you disagree with fascist'

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago* (13 children)

    i have never seen people shitting on libs at all on MoG. so i guess i would say its more a nonsensical take.

    if the political party that you're demanding everyone vote for is supporting (politically, militarily, economically) a fascist ethnostate run an extermination campaign, you're gonna get called a fascist.

    this is precise usage, not loose pejorative (ie how 'tankie' gets used)

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (7 children)

    I didn't say in MoG, I said in anti-MoG spaces.

    vague; are you attempting to make an allusion to hexbear.net/c/slop? like yeah there's gonna be people who are not favorable to anticommunism, plus the comm is for all forms of reactionary bullshit, lemmy bullshit just happens to show up there occasionally. MoG isn't even on the front page there right now, nor is it anywhere in top.

    supporting a genocide with billions in weapons and diplomatic cover is material, direct support. that's precise. that's the complaint that i've seen making about people who uncritically support political parties which have been doing this. 'sweeping for' is vague accusation with no clear criterion, bordering on wrongthink.

    'authoritarian communists' is also imprecise. authoritarian by whose definition? the US is authoritarian, we have the highest incarceration rate on earth. if you can't pay rent or otherwise secure housing you essentially end up unpersoned. if you're just somebody living in a country that's opposed to the US you will be subjected to misery via economic warfare under the guise of peaceful status quo (sanctions). 'tankie' isn't used for US supporters, no matter how authoritarian it is, it's used for anyone opposing US imperialism.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    on the other hand, not all communists support authoritarian communism, and what does that actually even mean, etc.

    you started this claiming piefed's intended exclusion of 'tankies' wasn't anti-communist. my point is simply that what matters if a given communist is to get called 'tankie' or not is how willing they are to toe the line against americas enemies.

    the US is authoritarian, it has been the hegemon and projects that domination around the world, choosing to have more ire for it than its enemies gets you labeled 'tankie'. i can only conclude that the desire to exclude tankies stems from a desire to censor critics of us imperialism.

    Liberals == actual Nazis, simple as. No nuance needed.

    i said that they're fascists because while in power the party materially, directly supported a genocidal ethnostate. if you're not shouting from the rafters that it needs to stop, but are instead browbeating people to uncritically support them and silencing and berating people critical of them, then you're part of that.

    i mean any given liberal could simply stop supporting the ethnostate doing a genocide and you wouldn't get called a fascist, but that would require some ability for introspection

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    if you're done being evasive and can't muster up an actual response then i guess we're done here.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    No it’s not it’s decidedly not precise. That’s the point. They call “Libs” Nazis and fascists because they believe that libs sweep for/support those groups.

    Huh. I wonder why they do that. Let's see if Rimu likes socialists who are anti racist or his Zionist liberal friends more. I have a good feeling on the answer.

    I would personally, but Rimu deleted my account from his instance. Because I called out his actions. Like a fascist burning books that say facts they don't like.

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