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New plaque in the White House - this is real (lemmy.zip)
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This is the plaque for the presidential portrait gallery for Joe Biden.

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[–] 56 points 6 months ago (14 children)

We used to be a real fucking country

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    There should be a three century minimum for being a country. Otherwise you're just a mature settler colony.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Sounds good. Because USA is not going to last 3 centuries. They are imploding before our very eyes.

    1776 1876 1976 2076

    Think they'll last 50 more years? Trump is single-handedly causing its collapse.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    … not really. ever. but i understand your point.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    No, we were. If you're going to pull that shit then basically no country has ever been a real country

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, the 90s were kind of nice in the USA. There was a real optimism for the future. We were gonna solve racism, we were gonna democratize information, we were going to judge everyone on the content of their character. Technology was always going to improve. We were gonna cure cancer, for God's sake.

    Then Social Media happened in the 2000s. So much for that...

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    laughs in anarchist… yes. no country has ever been. all jokes aside, when was america good for you, at the same time time it’s been good for everyone?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Laughs in literalist:
    "There was a point in recent history that a significant portion of the population, with enough sampling from ethnic subgroups, had decent opportunity to eke out a comfortable living. Those days that burn fresh in memory, are seemingly gone."

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    so there’s a line that’s defines “significant?”

    because yeah. 40 years ago houses were affordable. but govs were still fire bombing city blocks in philly because some brown people upset them.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Really bad, but the difference is the volume and scale. US government oppressing ethnic minorities is a horrible act, but not a new one. US government deliberately oppressing a large fraction of the majority is.

    Doesn't make it better or worse, but it is a marked shift

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    right. thats my point. there isn’t a scale such as a binary, thus it has never been a “good” (as in healthy) nation, in its black and white (again a binary) form.

    i’m just trying to push a rhetoric that stops folks from pining for day bygone that were better. they have never been better, just different

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    contrasting two tail ends of a continuous spectrum still points to a shift, and the availability to place a wide threshold between them does imply a certain level of robustness when used as a binary classification

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