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Do you believe in separating the work from the artist? (piefed.ca)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/ask@piefed.social
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I personally don’t because I view giving any kind of support as subsidising their problematic views.

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[–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

This might be a controversial take, but yes. In the creative world it's a conversation but there are a multitude of other domains where no one seems to care. IBM made proto-computers for the nazis to keep track of concentration camp prisoners. Volkswagen was created by Hitler. Continuing the nazi theme there are a lot of medical technologies that were made possible by (often) lethal experimentation on prisoners. Just about every publicly traded company is evil to some degree.

When it comes to the creative world we care for some reason. If it bothers you buy the media second hand. The creator gets $0 if you do. Sure it technically supports the secondary market which effects the new purchases because it makes reselling a viable option, but if you're tracking things that far removed from you there is pretty much nothing you can ethically buy. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

    That phrase needs to stop being used as it prevents the individual from thinking critically about their choices.

    Are we really going to assume that buying from farmer’s markets is the same as buying Walmart.

    Or that pro trans anarchist Servo is the same as fascist Ladybird.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It has become somewhat of a thought terminating cliche I will agree. In the context of my comment though I think it's appropriate. If the people we purchase things from must be morally pure and politically aligned with the buyer's viewpoint, the majority of products available for purchase in the US fail that test. Even "good" businesses that pass the test still must rely on an exploitative and unethical supply chain for their materials and distribution.

    Regarding the farmers market though, yeah kinda. If we shouldn't buy goods from Walmart because they are owned by fascists and exploit their workers, why is it okay to buy produce from MAGA farmers using criminally underpaid undocumented migrant labor? The short answer is it's not. The only difference is scale.

    I'm somewhat of a hardliner on ethics and morals. In my opinion something becomes unethical and morally wrong if a single person is exploited. I have no interest in measuring inches and degrees of evil.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    why is it okay to buy produce from MAGA farmers using criminally underpaid undocumented migrant labor?

    That’s a strawman as you know not all farmers fit that description.

    I have no interest in measuring inches and degrees of evil.

    I mean you have to measure the severity of evil to properly apply consequences.

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