And, a recent tour of one of the Asian powerhouse's vehicle plants has proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt, at least to Honda President and CEO Toshihiro Mibe.

"We have no chance against this," Mibe said upon a visit to a Shanghai parts factory, commenting on its seamless automation across all levels of production. Logistics, procurement and all aspects of the process were so automated, in fact, that he did not spot a single human worker on the supplier's floor.

Ford executives saying even three years ago that China was way ahead of the game

Toyota's CEO has likewise said regarding not just his company, but the industry in general, "unless things change, we will not survive"

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[–] 7 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Chevy isn't mentioned because they figured out how to make the Bolt.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    The bolt wasn't a profitable car. They used it to learn and get to the profitable vehicles they are making today.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    They're making profitable EVs? This is Chevrolet you're talking right? I said the bolt was good not profitable. Profitable is high margin garbage sold to morons, literally Tesla. And I'm not so much as riding in one of those piles of shit.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I believe the newer models are profitable yes, although not highly. And they still haven't covered the cost of all the R&D, but selling a vehicle profitably, is the first step to that.

    And yes, for what it was, the Bolt was good, its main drawback being the lack of high speed charging, but for a lot of people that was fine.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    Q2 2025: 33 sold in US, 4 in Canada.

    Lemmy is weird, everyone says they want EVs, but when they were available, no one bought them.

    Bolt was here, small efficient EV, but nah, they sold 33 in 2025. Ford F150 sold 828,000.

    bUt wHy dOeSnT FoRd mAkE aN eV?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Again, you are quoting sales of a car that was discontinued 2 years before your sales numbers.

    In 2023, the year the Bolt was discontinued, they sold 23,000 Bolts. Yes, that's far fewer than F150 numbers, but it is more than all EVs sold in the US by Audi and BMW combined in 2023. It sold more than any other EV besides Tesla.

    But yeah, keep using the Bolt as an example for why cheap EVs don't sell.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    That's less to do with the car and more infrastructure. It's a good cheap car but people who need cheap cars in the US and Canada can't charge them easily. Teslas and ford lightning on the other hand are all purchased by people with houses where they can charge an EV

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