▲ 567 ▼ China car giant BYD says it can thrive without US (www.bbc.co.uk) submitted 6 months ago by Deep@mander.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world 125 comments fedilink hide all child comments The recent surge in fuel prices due to the war in Iran has spurred demand for electric vehicles around the world, and Chinese car makers are making the most of the opportunity.
[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago (6 children) Hey China, you are welcome to sell me your clean cheap car! Sure, but they'll be spying on you too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dovahking@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (5 children) What's better? To be spied by your government that can use your data against you or the foreign government who can't. In an ideal world there'd be no spying, but we don't live in one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children) I mean, I agree we don't want spying, but: a foreign government absolutely can use your data against you. Whether its creating a profile on you that could later be used against you when you enter that country, using it for statistical or targeted data for influence campaigns...there are a lot of ways. China in particular has repeatedly deployed extra-territorial "police service stations" in at least the UK, Canada and the US to punish or harass those it's identified as "Chinese" dissidents or sympathizers in other countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* a foreign government absolutely can use your data against you They would like to know which individual have specific skill sets they want. Things such as being able to fly a fighter plane, operate a nuclear plant, or design hypersonic missiles. And they don't even have to touch that individual, just listen and watch, and get the information they need. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trail@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) On the other hand, it is very unlikely that I would willingly enter either China or US, so there is that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 2 points 6 months ago Honestly, China is amazing, and well worth visiting (not just Shanghai though, which is far too westernized.) Fantastic people, too. You wouldn't get me in the US again at gunpoint, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago even if china does have your data, probably going to run scams that likely wont affect you anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dovahking@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (5 children) What's better? To be spied by your government that can use your data against you or the foreign government who can't. In an ideal world there'd be no spying, but we don't live in one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children) I mean, I agree we don't want spying, but: a foreign government absolutely can use your data against you. Whether its creating a profile on you that could later be used against you when you enter that country, using it for statistical or targeted data for influence campaigns...there are a lot of ways. China in particular has repeatedly deployed extra-territorial "police service stations" in at least the UK, Canada and the US to punish or harass those it's identified as "Chinese" dissidents or sympathizers in other countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* a foreign government absolutely can use your data against you They would like to know which individual have specific skill sets they want. Things such as being able to fly a fighter plane, operate a nuclear plant, or design hypersonic missiles. And they don't even have to touch that individual, just listen and watch, and get the information they need. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trail@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) On the other hand, it is very unlikely that I would willingly enter either China or US, so there is that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 2 points 6 months ago Honestly, China is amazing, and well worth visiting (not just Shanghai though, which is far too westernized.) Fantastic people, too. You wouldn't get me in the US again at gunpoint, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago even if china does have your data, probably going to run scams that likely wont affect you anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children) I mean, I agree we don't want spying, but: a foreign government absolutely can use your data against you. Whether its creating a profile on you that could later be used against you when you enter that country, using it for statistical or targeted data for influence campaigns...there are a lot of ways. China in particular has repeatedly deployed extra-territorial "police service stations" in at least the UK, Canada and the US to punish or harass those it's identified as "Chinese" dissidents or sympathizers in other countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* a foreign government absolutely can use your data against you They would like to know which individual have specific skill sets they want. Things such as being able to fly a fighter plane, operate a nuclear plant, or design hypersonic missiles. And they don't even have to touch that individual, just listen and watch, and get the information they need. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trail@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) On the other hand, it is very unlikely that I would willingly enter either China or US, so there is that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 2 points 6 months ago Honestly, China is amazing, and well worth visiting (not just Shanghai though, which is far too westernized.) Fantastic people, too. You wouldn't get me in the US again at gunpoint, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* a foreign government absolutely can use your data against you They would like to know which individual have specific skill sets they want. Things such as being able to fly a fighter plane, operate a nuclear plant, or design hypersonic missiles. And they don't even have to touch that individual, just listen and watch, and get the information they need. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trail@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) On the other hand, it is very unlikely that I would willingly enter either China or US, so there is that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 2 points 6 months ago Honestly, China is amazing, and well worth visiting (not just Shanghai though, which is far too westernized.) Fantastic people, too. You wouldn't get me in the US again at gunpoint, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 2 points 6 months ago Honestly, China is amazing, and well worth visiting (not just Shanghai though, which is far too westernized.) Fantastic people, too. You wouldn't get me in the US again at gunpoint, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago even if china does have your data, probably going to run scams that likely wont affect you anyways. permalink fedilink source parent