▲ 841 ▼ Federal Surveillance Tech Becomes Mandatory in New Cars by 2027 (www.yahoo.com) submitted 6 months ago by ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online to c/technology@lemmy.world 368 comments fedilink hide all child comments I can't. I just can't.
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] mondomon@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (22 children) Yeah, it's something dystopian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] LonelySea@reddthat.com 16 points 6 months ago (21 children) You can't honestly believe that mass surveillance will help prevent those deaths, right? It won't. It'll be used punitively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) If the cameras and tracking systems inside cars don't stop them, why will this one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) And how do they know you're drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Can you describe an example of detailed mass surveillance that has not been used against us? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (16 children) Demanding the specifics of what can be broadly understood is a waste of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (15 children) Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (12 children) This is like saying that "age verification" is for protecting the kids permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (11 children) The point is age verification is not for protecting the kids, and it doesn't. It either makes kids easier to find or excludes them from learning tech in their free time so they don't inderstand how computers work, taking tech control and ownership of em. The government couldn't give less of a fuck about them, except for actually fucking them. Same for this, it won't protect anyone, it'll just dynamically increase gas prices or some shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -5 points 6 months ago* (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (10 children) So you agree with everything else I said? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children) You live under a rock if you think this info will not be used against you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (3 children) There have to be accepted levels of risk in the world or no one can do anything. No one should drive at all, nor fly planes, ride a boat at sea, or ride a horse. No one should run any heavy machinery etc etc. The list goes on and on. But just because someone else makes bad choices, does not mean all people need to sacrifice their rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Privacy is a right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) It is when you live in a car-centric society with an abysmal lack of accessible public transit that necessities the ability to travel by way of a personal vehicle in order to survive. Your excuse is just as pathetic as "if you don't like the working conditions just get a better job". Such simple-minded, ignorant bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago Do you even understand what passive bac detection entalls? Its not blowing into a device, that would be active detection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mondomon@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (22 children) Yeah, it's something dystopian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] LonelySea@reddthat.com 16 points 6 months ago (21 children) You can't honestly believe that mass surveillance will help prevent those deaths, right? It won't. It'll be used punitively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) If the cameras and tracking systems inside cars don't stop them, why will this one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) And how do they know you're drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Can you describe an example of detailed mass surveillance that has not been used against us? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (16 children) Demanding the specifics of what can be broadly understood is a waste of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (15 children) Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] LonelySea@reddthat.com 16 points 6 months ago (21 children) You can't honestly believe that mass surveillance will help prevent those deaths, right? It won't. It'll be used punitively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) If the cameras and tracking systems inside cars don't stop them, why will this one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) And how do they know you're drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Can you describe an example of detailed mass surveillance that has not been used against us? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (16 children) Demanding the specifics of what can be broadly understood is a waste of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (15 children) Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LonelySea@reddthat.com 16 points 6 months ago (21 children) You can't honestly believe that mass surveillance will help prevent those deaths, right? It won't. It'll be used punitively. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) If the cameras and tracking systems inside cars don't stop them, why will this one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) And how do they know you're drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Can you describe an example of detailed mass surveillance that has not been used against us? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (16 children) Demanding the specifics of what can be broadly understood is a waste of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (15 children) Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) If the cameras and tracking systems inside cars don't stop them, why will this one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) And how do they know you're drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Can you describe an example of detailed mass surveillance that has not been used against us? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (16 children) Demanding the specifics of what can be broadly understood is a waste of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (15 children) Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (2 children) If the cameras and tracking systems inside cars don't stop them, why will this one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) And how do they know you're drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) And how do they know you're drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) And how do they know you're drunk? Cameras? Mandatory blood samples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Can you describe an example of detailed mass surveillance that has not been used against us? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (16 children) Demanding the specifics of what can be broadly understood is a waste of time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (15 children) Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (15 children) Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 6 months ago (15 children) Ah yes, everyone else must live in a different reality that does not hold your wild takes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (14 children) You see the issue is that you are doing the very thing that you think everyone else is doing here. This is a real issue around tech we own spying on us and the slide into a very bad place. Your the one making up a scenario in your head about tech making anything safer (car injuries and crashes per capita have not in fact gone down with new tech past the collapsing steering column), and then thinking that since 40,000 people die in vehicle crashes justifies anything. Here's is a fun little stat: 12,000 us people die each year on stairs does that then mean we should make stairs have infotainment systems that block stairs if it thinks you are drunk or sleepy? I mean its all worth it right, even if all the data collected on those stairs is used to fuck the users of those stairs. For a better look here is an example: In 2008 12.32/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us In 2022 12.76/100,000 people died in motor vehicles in the us So that tech that spies on you did nothing? In 2008 5,811,000 reported crashes happened In 2022 5,930,496 reported crashes happened Looks like it did not do that much, but boooooooy howdy did the amount of crap in our cars increased from 2008 to 2022. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (11 children) No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’ The breathalyzer, how can you not see that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) Yeah, clearly that will be the only thing to come from this level of over reach. Clearly as long as your not doing anything untoward you have nothing to fear. Pre judgment of crime before it is committed just makes sense right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Or your car will not start when you use the wrong mouthwash, or when you are the designated driver, or when in an emergency on the way to the hospital after using rubbing alcohol. Or you are drunk and get in your car for whatever reason and the doors lock and call the police when you had no intention of driving. Or and here's a fun one, not wanting to be treated like a fucking criminal with a item you paid many tens of thousands for! And all that is off the top of my head before getting into the nightmare of who gets the data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) We have today a massive issue just with cameras in cars (remember when Tesla got caught watching people fuck in their home?). You rolling out the red carpet to have even more dystopian shit in the future is silly, and here let's turn this around, if those technologic evils are not at risk of being made real, then why the fuck do you care that people are upset about a law mandating them in cars? Are you the outrage police? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Passive bac detection... And you after all this think that means anything not ripped right from a dystopian story written to warn us never to do the stupid thing you seem to want? I don't let my car record anything I do, and I am not forced to yet. No one at this time is forced into the nightmare, but if this shit becomes law they will be. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (6 children) No one is arguing for that, you're being dishonest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children) Please point to someone saying I want to drive drunk. Surely you can find one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] spacesatan@leminal.space -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Basic rights? Not being considered guilty in advance? Come now this is just getting silly. You should just turn yourself in for diddiling children as we are making up quotes no one said as you clearly have the ability to be a child preditor and all that. Actually let's just install a device that checks your arousal every time a child is within 50 meters of you, I mean unless you can find me a good reason why you should be able to live as a child molester. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Please find me someone who wants to drive drunk. 4th time's the charm? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] spacesatan@leminal.space 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Still haven't found anyone, huh? Oh well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Rejoice, the user deleted his account after being banned here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Wow, guess keep an eye out for a new account to keep up the argument then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (12 children) This is like saying that "age verification" is for protecting the kids permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (11 children) The point is age verification is not for protecting the kids, and it doesn't. It either makes kids easier to find or excludes them from learning tech in their free time so they don't inderstand how computers work, taking tech control and ownership of em. The government couldn't give less of a fuck about them, except for actually fucking them. Same for this, it won't protect anyone, it'll just dynamically increase gas prices or some shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -5 points 6 months ago* (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (10 children) So you agree with everything else I said? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children) You live under a rock if you think this info will not be used against you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (11 children) The point is age verification is not for protecting the kids, and it doesn't. It either makes kids easier to find or excludes them from learning tech in their free time so they don't inderstand how computers work, taking tech control and ownership of em. The government couldn't give less of a fuck about them, except for actually fucking them. Same for this, it won't protect anyone, it'll just dynamically increase gas prices or some shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -5 points 6 months ago* (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (10 children) So you agree with everything else I said? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children) You live under a rock if you think this info will not be used against you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (11 children) The point is age verification is not for protecting the kids, and it doesn't. It either makes kids easier to find or excludes them from learning tech in their free time so they don't inderstand how computers work, taking tech control and ownership of em. The government couldn't give less of a fuck about them, except for actually fucking them. Same for this, it won't protect anyone, it'll just dynamically increase gas prices or some shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] spacesatan@leminal.space -5 points 6 months ago* (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (10 children) So you agree with everything else I said? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children) You live under a rock if you think this info will not be used against you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] spacesatan@leminal.space -5 points 6 months ago* (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (10 children) So you agree with everything else I said? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children) You live under a rock if you think this info will not be used against you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (10 children) So you agree with everything else I said? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children) You live under a rock if you think this info will not be used against you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children) You live under a rock if you think this info will not be used against you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children) You live under a rock if you think this info will not be used against you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago (8 children) Must be nice being so ignorant of economic and class based interests and being that oblivious to the systemic forces of our society and how they manifest. It doesn't have to exist yet to readily assume, using class based analysis of our society, that it will be used against us by those who control the means to its distribution and implementation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (7 children) Prove me youre not a bot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children) You failed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (3 children) Eh, that seems like falling into the two party fallacy. Plenty of silly in every sub group. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (2 children) Fair, I just find the people who want more surveillance because of a vague "protecting the community" to be stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Oh yes a very silly position to hold over all. But lets not pretend its a unique viewpoint only held by one sub group or another. Way too many people yell "won't someone think of the children" while taking the most oppressive position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago Fair, Tipper Gore comes to mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago That's ironic from you, this entire thread is you getting mad that people don't want privacy invasions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago Good news, the person who acted like a bot deleted their account! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (3 children) There have to be accepted levels of risk in the world or no one can do anything. No one should drive at all, nor fly planes, ride a boat at sea, or ride a horse. No one should run any heavy machinery etc etc. The list goes on and on. But just because someone else makes bad choices, does not mean all people need to sacrifice their rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Privacy is a right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) It is when you live in a car-centric society with an abysmal lack of accessible public transit that necessities the ability to travel by way of a personal vehicle in order to survive. Your excuse is just as pathetic as "if you don't like the working conditions just get a better job". Such simple-minded, ignorant bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago Do you even understand what passive bac detection entalls? Its not blowing into a device, that would be active detection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Privacy is a right. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) It is when you live in a car-centric society with an abysmal lack of accessible public transit that necessities the ability to travel by way of a personal vehicle in order to survive. Your excuse is just as pathetic as "if you don't like the working conditions just get a better job". Such simple-minded, ignorant bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago Do you even understand what passive bac detection entalls? Its not blowing into a device, that would be active detection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Privacy is a right. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) It is when you live in a car-centric society with an abysmal lack of accessible public transit that necessities the ability to travel by way of a personal vehicle in order to survive. Your excuse is just as pathetic as "if you don't like the working conditions just get a better job". Such simple-minded, ignorant bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago Do you even understand what passive bac detection entalls? Its not blowing into a device, that would be active detection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago Do you even understand what passive bac detection entalls? Its not blowing into a device, that would be active detection. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago Do you even understand what passive bac detection entalls? Its not blowing into a device, that would be active detection. permalink fedilink source parent