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How some of you sound (lemmy.ml)
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  • [–] [S] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    The problem rests on your belief that you know better than the millions of people in the DPRK

    That's only true if you assume the government is actually a representation of the will of the people of the DPRK. How am I supposed to know whether that's true other than by evaluating the quality of their democratic system?

    Though you maintain a polite tone, your actual actions speak against that

    What actions have I taken that are upsetting?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    That’s only true if you assume the government is actually a representation of the will of the people of the DPRK

    Everything you're baselessly insinuating only makes sense if you assume a priori that it isn't. This is just you inverting your uninformed position and assuming it must be ours too.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago

    you assume a priori that it isn't

    I'm open to the idea that is is, but all the evidence I've seen this far indicates that it isn't, and no one has given evidence that it is

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The classes in power in the DPRK are the working classes

    Whether this is true is really what I'm trying to determine, and currently skeptical of. I guess it may be difficult to prove or disprove. It sounds like you think the class identity of the administration is enough to say so, but I could be wrong. I don't see that as sufficient.

    regular strawmanning and misframing

    I may have misrepresented your or others' perspectives, but if so it was not intentional.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    The working classes control the state

    Do you mean (1) that the collective will of the working class directs the behavior of the state, or (2) that managers of the state are members of the working class?

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