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Charlie Kirk Greek play death (feddit.dk)
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[–] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Turned out to be left-leaning, ultimately.

Gun nut with a trans-baddie gf who decided to shoot up a school event out of a toxically masculine sense of righteous pride? How is that left-leaning?

Sometimes I think people work really hard to put this or that fringe figure somewhere on the Left/Right divide, when this guy was just armed, online, and easily ahem triggered. You could say the same thing about Luigi Mangione or Thomas Matthew Crooks. None of them fit neatly into a partisan bucket. The plurality of Americans don't fit neatly.

Unlike with Charlie, this shot went over my head.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah what the other guy replied to you.

    Not my joke, originally though. But yeah, it's a joke. Ofc he wasn't in any way politically leftist.

    Also I agree with you and would describe myself an advocate of non-partisan politics but in this day and age I do mostly identify as a leftist in most contexts, because I'm not gonna do the whole "both sides" shit when the world looks like this.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    I’m not gonna do the whole “both sides” shit when the world looks like this.

    I think there is a real and genuinely positive inclination among people to look at the state of the world in horror and say "We have to all band together to do something about it". But I also can't help notice that some of the people in the room claiming "We're here to help" are wearing Raytheon lanyards and Palantir branded backpacks and Crypto sweater vests and Israeli flag lapel pins.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I think there is a real and genuinely positive inclination among people to look at the state of the world in horror and say "We have to all band together to do something about it".

    Agreed. Which is why I advocate non-partisan politics.

    But in general conversation, I'm gonna heavily condemn the right, because cmon, gestures vaguely at everything.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I advocate non-partisan politics.

    Okay, but what if I've got a group of friends, we all agree on a course of action, and we plan to pursue our political interest collectively as a party? Should we just... not?

    But in general conversation, I’m gonna heavily condemn the right, because cmon, gestures vaguely at everything.

    I think the modern Republican Party has openly embraced fascist rhetoric in a country where liberals and conservatives alike have become all too accepting of fascist policy. The end result has been anti-fascists initially piling into liberal partisan organizations (particularly under Obama) only to discover them totally unresponsive to public pressure unless the person making demands was a mega-donor or corporate chief.

    When you look at governors like Gavin Newsom openly flirting with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon, while senators like Chuck Schumer continue to defend and even outright endorse genocide of colored populations from Algeria to The Philippines, its very hard to see where "the right" in this country ends and "real liberalism" begins.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Should we just... not?

    If you live in a country with partisan democracy, you absolutely should.

    What I advocate for and what is actually feasible atm are two different things. Like I'd possibly advocate for a world government, given some things were properly fixed. But since they aren't, and I don't see everyone getting suddenly enlightened, I realise national defence policies are still a thing.

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    In other words, I'm a conditional pacifist. I advocate for peace, but I would also take up a gun if I deem it necessary for defending my country from invaders. (And I am actually a trained sergeant in the reserves, so that's not just me saying it, me doing that would be enforced by the MP's even if I didn't want to go)

    I think the modern Republican Party has openly embraced fascist rhetoric in a country where liberals and conservatives alike have become all too accepting of fascist policy. The end result has been anti-fascists initially piling into liberal partisan organizations (particularly under Obama) only to discover them totally unresponsive to public pressure unless the person making demands was a mega-donor or corporate chief.

    Which is very much why I condemn them. And from a European POV, even your left is pretty right a lot of the times, especially on social and economic policies.

    The Philippines, its very hard to see where "the right" in this country ends and "real liberalism" begins.

    Yeah well that's sort of the issue, and which is why I can't currently identify as a non-partisan. Even though I'm not even American, but like in general discourse, especially when a lot of it's happening online where American is a context usually.

    If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.

    — Desmond Tutu

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