▲ 62 ▼ Sam Altman’s house targeted in second attack; two suspects arrested (sfstandard.com) submitted 6 months ago by cm0002@lemdro.id to c/usa@lemmy.ca 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (11 children) It's about sending a message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago That kinda undercuts the grandparent commenter not caring about the reason, though. If you're sending a message, it matters what the message says. permalink fedilink source parent [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 months ago* (9 children) What message do you think it would send? Sam Altman is full of shit, violently attacking him distracts from that and hands him an easy narrative to defend his actions with. It is counterproductive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (4 children) That we are all sick of billionaires bullshit. I’ll celebrate dragon slayers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago* (3 children) Hurting or killing Altman will lead to a more authoritarian, brutal crackdown and consolidation of power in the ruling class, it can lead nowhere else. The only message you would send is it is ok for those in power to begin more openly smashing our society to pieces in the interests of keeping "everyone" safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) There are a lot more of us than them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Yes and there are WAY less of us when we resort to violence and intimidation because it fractures our clarity of intention and empowers the narratives of our enemies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago That authoritarian crackdown will lead to an even larger anti-auth response. The reality is that the anti-auths can see and raise any authoritarian escalation, just like France did ~250 years ago. The ruling class needs to figure out how to step back from the precipice, and fast. Bread and circuses incoming. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children) If he gets Kirk’d what narrative is there for him to share? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) Were you not paying attention to how Kirk was "martyred" by the mainstream media? Did you not see how who Charlie Kirk was before he was killed become merely an uncomfortable detail to a rousing story of tragedy after he was killed? Charlie Kirk's ideas will NEVER be challenged, lampooned and dismantled fairly because his ideas are overshadowed by the narrative of his murder. If a leftist shot someone like Kirk it would be the beginning of a brutal implosion of civil liberties that would make what has happened so far look relatively limited in comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Are you joking??? The mainstream media tried turning him into a martyr, sure, but to what end? Abject failure. Like, c'mon, name one person who has taken his ideas more seriously since his neck just did that. I'll wait. His lifetime dedication to making the world a worse place was put to an abrupt end, and his entire legacy of cruelty has become nothing more than a joke, with his name now a mere punchline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Charlie Kirk became a far more accepted figure after his death, killing him made the rightwing movement stronger, that really isn't up for debate the effect is so obvious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago That kinda undercuts the grandparent commenter not caring about the reason, though. If you're sending a message, it matters what the message says. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 months ago* (9 children) What message do you think it would send? Sam Altman is full of shit, violently attacking him distracts from that and hands him an easy narrative to defend his actions with. It is counterproductive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (4 children) That we are all sick of billionaires bullshit. I’ll celebrate dragon slayers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago* (3 children) Hurting or killing Altman will lead to a more authoritarian, brutal crackdown and consolidation of power in the ruling class, it can lead nowhere else. The only message you would send is it is ok for those in power to begin more openly smashing our society to pieces in the interests of keeping "everyone" safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) There are a lot more of us than them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Yes and there are WAY less of us when we resort to violence and intimidation because it fractures our clarity of intention and empowers the narratives of our enemies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago That authoritarian crackdown will lead to an even larger anti-auth response. The reality is that the anti-auths can see and raise any authoritarian escalation, just like France did ~250 years ago. The ruling class needs to figure out how to step back from the precipice, and fast. Bread and circuses incoming. permalink fedilink source parent [–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children) If he gets Kirk’d what narrative is there for him to share? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) Were you not paying attention to how Kirk was "martyred" by the mainstream media? Did you not see how who Charlie Kirk was before he was killed become merely an uncomfortable detail to a rousing story of tragedy after he was killed? Charlie Kirk's ideas will NEVER be challenged, lampooned and dismantled fairly because his ideas are overshadowed by the narrative of his murder. If a leftist shot someone like Kirk it would be the beginning of a brutal implosion of civil liberties that would make what has happened so far look relatively limited in comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Are you joking??? The mainstream media tried turning him into a martyr, sure, but to what end? Abject failure. Like, c'mon, name one person who has taken his ideas more seriously since his neck just did that. I'll wait. His lifetime dedication to making the world a worse place was put to an abrupt end, and his entire legacy of cruelty has become nothing more than a joke, with his name now a mere punchline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Charlie Kirk became a far more accepted figure after his death, killing him made the rightwing movement stronger, that really isn't up for debate the effect is so obvious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (4 children) That we are all sick of billionaires bullshit. I’ll celebrate dragon slayers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago* (3 children) Hurting or killing Altman will lead to a more authoritarian, brutal crackdown and consolidation of power in the ruling class, it can lead nowhere else. The only message you would send is it is ok for those in power to begin more openly smashing our society to pieces in the interests of keeping "everyone" safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) There are a lot more of us than them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Yes and there are WAY less of us when we resort to violence and intimidation because it fractures our clarity of intention and empowers the narratives of our enemies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago That authoritarian crackdown will lead to an even larger anti-auth response. The reality is that the anti-auths can see and raise any authoritarian escalation, just like France did ~250 years ago. The ruling class needs to figure out how to step back from the precipice, and fast. Bread and circuses incoming. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago* (3 children) Hurting or killing Altman will lead to a more authoritarian, brutal crackdown and consolidation of power in the ruling class, it can lead nowhere else. The only message you would send is it is ok for those in power to begin more openly smashing our society to pieces in the interests of keeping "everyone" safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) There are a lot more of us than them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Yes and there are WAY less of us when we resort to violence and intimidation because it fractures our clarity of intention and empowers the narratives of our enemies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago That authoritarian crackdown will lead to an even larger anti-auth response. The reality is that the anti-auths can see and raise any authoritarian escalation, just like France did ~250 years ago. The ruling class needs to figure out how to step back from the precipice, and fast. Bread and circuses incoming. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) There are a lot more of us than them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Yes and there are WAY less of us when we resort to violence and intimidation because it fractures our clarity of intention and empowers the narratives of our enemies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 6 months ago Yes and there are WAY less of us when we resort to violence and intimidation because it fractures our clarity of intention and empowers the narratives of our enemies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago That authoritarian crackdown will lead to an even larger anti-auth response. The reality is that the anti-auths can see and raise any authoritarian escalation, just like France did ~250 years ago. The ruling class needs to figure out how to step back from the precipice, and fast. Bread and circuses incoming. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children) If he gets Kirk’d what narrative is there for him to share? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) Were you not paying attention to how Kirk was "martyred" by the mainstream media? Did you not see how who Charlie Kirk was before he was killed become merely an uncomfortable detail to a rousing story of tragedy after he was killed? Charlie Kirk's ideas will NEVER be challenged, lampooned and dismantled fairly because his ideas are overshadowed by the narrative of his murder. If a leftist shot someone like Kirk it would be the beginning of a brutal implosion of civil liberties that would make what has happened so far look relatively limited in comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Are you joking??? The mainstream media tried turning him into a martyr, sure, but to what end? Abject failure. Like, c'mon, name one person who has taken his ideas more seriously since his neck just did that. I'll wait. His lifetime dedication to making the world a worse place was put to an abrupt end, and his entire legacy of cruelty has become nothing more than a joke, with his name now a mere punchline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Charlie Kirk became a far more accepted figure after his death, killing him made the rightwing movement stronger, that really isn't up for debate the effect is so obvious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) Were you not paying attention to how Kirk was "martyred" by the mainstream media? Did you not see how who Charlie Kirk was before he was killed become merely an uncomfortable detail to a rousing story of tragedy after he was killed? Charlie Kirk's ideas will NEVER be challenged, lampooned and dismantled fairly because his ideas are overshadowed by the narrative of his murder. If a leftist shot someone like Kirk it would be the beginning of a brutal implosion of civil liberties that would make what has happened so far look relatively limited in comparison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Are you joking??? The mainstream media tried turning him into a martyr, sure, but to what end? Abject failure. Like, c'mon, name one person who has taken his ideas more seriously since his neck just did that. I'll wait. His lifetime dedication to making the world a worse place was put to an abrupt end, and his entire legacy of cruelty has become nothing more than a joke, with his name now a mere punchline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Charlie Kirk became a far more accepted figure after his death, killing him made the rightwing movement stronger, that really isn't up for debate the effect is so obvious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Are you joking??? The mainstream media tried turning him into a martyr, sure, but to what end? Abject failure. Like, c'mon, name one person who has taken his ideas more seriously since his neck just did that. I'll wait. His lifetime dedication to making the world a worse place was put to an abrupt end, and his entire legacy of cruelty has become nothing more than a joke, with his name now a mere punchline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Charlie Kirk became a far more accepted figure after his death, killing him made the rightwing movement stronger, that really isn't up for debate the effect is so obvious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago Charlie Kirk became a far more accepted figure after his death, killing him made the rightwing movement stronger, that really isn't up for debate the effect is so obvious. permalink fedilink source parent