I don't know why you keep acting like I'm against voting when that's all I've been supporting this whole thread. I do take the time out of my day to vote, even helping my elderly father who struggles walking get to the polls. I constantly advocate for more people to vote and convince my friends and coworkers to do the same. It's just that the bubble I fill in (we only have paper tickets here no electric machines I hear other places got) doesn't have a D or R next to it. The people I talk to are tired of the inaction Dems have shown for decades with many only voting for Conservatives cause they get tricked. I've gotten many who voted Trump in 2016 and 2020 to vote for actual progressives in 2024. We always talk about needing to build an actual progressive party and, as anyone will tell you, that starts by actually supporting them at every chance and takes a lot of time to achieve. Over 40k people supported a movement away from the major parties and no Harris would not have won the state had they all voted for her instead (she'd still be over 500k votes short and that's with 70% of registered voters voting which is pretty close to the 75% figure I see many wish would vote). She'd need basically half of the remaining people to vote for her and I just don't see a world in that happening after spending time with non-voters.