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YouTube's ad problem just got worse: Users now seeing 90-second unskippable ads! (www.androidauthority.com)
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[–] 273 points 7 months ago (48 children)

Smart TVs are really just somebody else's computer that you paid for to watch ads on.

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  • [–] 105 points 7 months ago (29 children)

    This. There is a reason why dumb displays of a similar size are much more expensive. Because the manufacturer can't feed you ads and sell your data ...

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago (27 children)

    I don't understand the need for those. My smart tv is functioning exactly as a computer monitor. It is connected via a display connection to my computer, and nothing else. It does show a brief warning that it is unconnected to the internet whenever I turn it on, but it disappears after 10 seconds or so.

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  • [–] 66 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    Yeah, but that's not how most people use Smart TVs. Also, they're still coming for you, next up they'll try to insert ads via HDMI. and good luck finding a Smart TV with display port.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    It's a possibility with chromebooks because of the google ad network, but I can't see why consoles, linux, mac, even windows tbh, has any incentive to support this. At best, they might make it an option, but there's nothing in it for them. It actively makes their content look worse, while an ad supported OS like windows already has capability to place ads anyway.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    $$$

    Consoles are a shrinking market. If they were offered money by TV manufacturers to cooperate with putting more ads on it, they most certainly will.

    And I suspect Microsoft/Windows will too. Apple might not, though.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Yeah. Apple is plenty evil but not having ads is, generally, part of their “premium feel.” There are exceptions to this, unfortunately, especially recently.

    But I definitely don’t regret doing a factory reset on my LG TV and hooking up an Apple TV.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

    Ads via HDMI shouldn't work if the TV doesn't have internet connection, by my understanding. So I do not see any problems there.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    oh don't worry, they'll start participating in mesh networks with your neighbors' smart devices and getting internet access that way

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    TVs often do a bad job at switching on when the computer turns on, then off when it turns off/goes to sleep. Drives me spare. That was fixed in like 1995-2000 for normal monitors.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    CEC has been around for years. This is probably more an issue with the PC in question rather than the TV. TVs do an excellent job at turning themselves on when CEC is enabled. 👍

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    PCs have almost never supported CEC. PCs use a different signalling method to indicate to the monitor that they're on/off.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly. So they aren't talking with the same protocol. TVs can turn themselves on, but PCs just don't send the required signals. ✔️

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    And now look how high $ CRTs are, even the low end ones.

    I'll never get rid of mine. You can't get a 0 ms latency TV with zero "features" anymore. And those commercial TVs dont come with remotes. I never liked how flat screens look either. Laggy and awful colors. I'm sure a $3000 oled is great but no thanks

    I also despise massive TVs so another win. People with 80" TVs in their living room are just ick.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    The same reason i stopped playing on Consoles since the PS2 - there was no good reason for the People to get this kind of things on the internet.

    It was just good for the Business to hold the connection to you and control whatever they produced.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I got a PS3 and a PS4 so I wouldn't need to use Windows for gaming. That's not an issue anymore, though.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Steamdeck here and the last time i played on Windows was like 2015/2016 but never again after Win10 shutdown my System for an Update while i played a LoL ranked Game.. That was the last Time i used Windows for privat use. After that i formated the HDD and installed Linux Mint

    I'm still very happy with this decision

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I thought LoL was one of the games that require windows for kernel level anticheat?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Yes, but at least the kernel Anti Cheat belongs since 2024 i belive? There was a long Time before DXVK or Proton you can play nearly nothing on Linux but LoL worked "okayish". Nothing close to play ranked but for a casual normal game it was good enought to let me switch to Linux this times and ditch Windows at all

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Commercial TVs are so worth the extra cost. Recently got a Samsung Commercial Non-Smart TV and paired it with my $20 debloated/deGoogled Onn 4K Streaming box from Walmart. Bam, got a media setup that I fully own.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    What is the cost comparison?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    $453.00 # 43" Samsung HU6000F Non-Smart Hospitality TV with Pro:Idiom for Set Top Box Deployments

    Nice!

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    yeah I got a bit lazy there, at 55 inches you are at $604

    When you go to 65 though its $1004 so pretty big jump.

    Oddly enough going from 65 to 75 is only another ~375 USD (1377)

    To me the best deal seems like 50 or 55 inches, although your room size and seating positions are likely the most important.

    Also interesting if you're in the USA Best Buy does have some non-smart TVs and even a filter for it, although its mostly no-name brands or Samsung.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Thanks for fleshing out the full picture. So perhaps the largest TVs at the store are getting some pretty big subsidies, courtesy Advertising Inc.

    And good tip on Best Buy. Thank you. What an informative lil comment, Leo 😎

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Link to tv box? And did you have to debload/degoogle it yourself?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    This really has nothing to do with Smart TVs in itself though.. It's just a problem if you choose to play YouTube videos on your TV, which seems like a pretty reasonable thing to want to do.

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