atomicbocks comments on Outsourcing your thinking to AI is a... choice.

Yeah I've heard this before. People who are confident about things they know nothing about say it. I worked for the largest AI researcher in the world and work with this technology every day for my current job. I talk to experts all the time about it. I've never heard an expert in the field make any characterisation roughly like that with any confidence. Great example of the dunning-kruger effect.

The end result is that AI's produce more accurate answers than the bottom half of humans the vast majority of the time.

Feel free to argue your uninformed theories about how they work all you want, seeing as no one knows it well nor does anyone really understand all the mechanisms that make our brains think. The mechanism doesn't really matter if the results are there.

I know a few MAGAts who would greatly benefit from outsourcing their brains to AI. They would make far better decisions with their lives.

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[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 41 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Invoking the dunning-kruger effect in this rambling, nonsensical response has got to be the most bitterly ironic thing I've read in a while.

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[+] realitista@lemmus.org -34 points 7 months ago

Unlike some people I can admit the things I don't know. And despite working in the field I can quite confidently say that I don't understand the internal workings of the human brain nor modern transformer/sam's/reasoning engines.

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[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I worked for the largest AI researcher in the world

Wow the rhetoric coming directly from investor-bait think tanks characterizes the technology in a positive light? Tell me more

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[+] realitista@lemmus.org -15 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

This was more than 10 years ago.

I have a ton of concerns about the effects of AI on society.

I am concerned that it will also eat into the critical thinking capabilities of those who are capable of critical thinking.

I do worry that billionaires will control armies of robots and that capital will replace labor making labor worthless and most people serfs with no possibility to make money.

And in the same breath, I can safely say that all of those things are way too complex for me to predict, because I'm not a charlatan.

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[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Oh, gotcha

Just so we can get on the same page, the field of “machine learning” at that point in time (and even still today) is a completely different animal than the current wave of parasitic “AI” products that are being aggressively marketed.

We need to be extremely clear when differentiating the two and understanding the thru-line, because the marketeers are intentionally trying to obfuscate the difference. For instance when you reply to someone who is talking about the capabilities of LLMs, you should be very clear when you start referring to the discussions machine learning experts used to have a decade ago. A lot has happened in that time

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org -4 points 7 months ago

Even talking about LLM's is largely useless now as most of the products we actually use these days have moved on from simply being LLM's. So the uninformed assumptions people are bandying about in the thread aren't even correct on a technical level.

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[–] pipe01@programming.dev 38 points 7 months ago (5 children)

And surely the AI that companies control will never have any bias or misrepresent facts to fuel a narrative when used by people that don't know any better because they have relegated all their thinking to a machine!

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[+] realitista@lemmus.org -35 points 7 months ago (4 children)

This will definitely happen. But the current state of things is that AI's are far more honest than right wing media for example. And even with Elon trying super hard to make Grok a bigoted right wing AI, it usually doesn't toe the line and tells the truth instead.

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[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

LLMs don’t tell the truth. They just string words together that would likely go next to each other.

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[+] realitista@lemmus.org -7 points 7 months ago

This is a stupid cop out. You can read something that an AI engine spits out and judge whether it's true or not. And even on a technical level, modern AI engines do a lot more than just what we traditionally think of as an LLM do. They conduct research, gather data, transform it, process it and return results based on that. I mean, I told one to take a handwritten table, tansform it into an excel sheet and give it back to me. It did it more or less perfectly. How can that possibly be construed as just guessing the next word?

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[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

every currently problematic technology started as a honey pot that could be turned into a nightmare. then when they killed all the competition got turned it into a nightmare. we can't ignore the nightmare that it will definitely become. regardless of what it's luring people in with now. especially when you consider the men in charge of these things.

we can't keep falling for it. this one has the biggest implications yet. when they get good at using it to manipulate consumer behavior we're absolutely fucked if the bottom half of the population is addicted. look at how easily they manipulate them anyway through social media. half of the pro trunp tiktoks in the last us election were just sad war clips with a caption like "me and the boys after kamala starts a war with iran". it worked. now imagine if the thing that they let think for them tells them that trump's opponent is bad and dumb every time they ask. elon is already openly trying to manipulate grok's responses.

but it's impossible to say it better than cory doctorow's original enshitification article. read that for more.

ultimately the real issue isn't how accurate they are. it's giving your mind over to corporations that have a fiduciary duty to maximize profits for their shareholders

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[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago

Bar so low Limbo 2 released

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[+] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 0 points 7 months ago

I'm sorry you deleted your comment. It was one of the only good ones here and I wanted to answer it.

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[–] Tippy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Grok Academy, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Anthropic, and I have over 300 confirmed generations. I am trained in mindless brainrot and I'm the top grifter in the entire AI pump-and-dump industry. You are nothing to me but just another dataset. I will wipe you the fuck out with slop the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of prompt "engineers" across the USA and your IP is being infringed right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can generate anytime, and I can misinform you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my CSAM creation model. Not only am I extensively trained in typing basic descriptions into a text box, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Civit.ai website and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit 6-fingered anime girls all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.