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Second verse same as the first (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/latestagecapitalism@lemmy.world
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[+] -6 points 7 months ago (18 children)
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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    No, I don't want to drive home the idea that nothing changes, I want to change things, while you want to maintain the material conditions that led to the rise of this regime.

    Best of luck driving voter turnout with that hogwash.

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    If nothing is more urgent, and toppling the regime requires voter turnout, then it would stand to reason that perhaps encouraging voter turnout is key? That seems self-evident to me. And the Democrats (and you) ain't gonna get it done by offering the same ol' same ol' that failed to generate turnout for Harris.

    On the other hand, people could barely wait to vote for Mamdani.

    Maybe there's a lesson there.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Getting rid of trump will change absolutely nothing. Liberals that talk like this act like changing a cog in the machine will change how the machine operates. Trump is a byproduct of 50 years of neoliberal politics , they need to be protesting the system that enables someone like Trump to rise, otherwise, the version you get of him next time will be 10 times worse than this one. Which is what leftist told liberals back in 2016 would happen if you allowed Trump to win his first term, And again in 2020 when we warned that the second term of trump would be 10 times worse than his first when you nominated a neoliberal old white guy that nobody wanted

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Would that be the concentration camps where the Biden administration kept putting kids in cages you're talking about?

    Or the concentration camps where the Obama and Biden administrations tortured innocent civilians from the middle east?

    Or the concentration camps where more Democratic administrations than I care to name have condemned millions of mostly nonwhite Americans to forced labor in a constitutional exemption on slavery?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Absolutely nothing is more urgent than ending the Trump regime.

    And this proves you're blue MAGA. It's all just a sports game to you.

    You want Trump out just for the sake of having Trump out. There's no plan beyond that. There's no accountability beyond that. It's all just "get their guy out and my guy in." Your goal isn't to exact certain policy goals, as otherwise that would be your number one priority. Personally, if Trump pulled a reverse Fetterman tomorrow, had a stroke, and suddenly became progressive, I wouldn't want him out of office. Getting him out is a means to an end, not an end in itself.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You have no actual plans or rebuttals aside from "orange man bad". You shame those who criticize the outcomes (or lack thereof) of liberals who wield power from this insanity. Trump alone is not fascism and his death or removal from office alone will not fix the conditions that allowed him and his sick depraved sycophants from getting into power in the first place.

    I expect nothing of value back as a response. I hope you screech more about the concentration camps while simultaneously sucking on the boots of liberals who helped quietly build them. I hope you tell me to vote for more fettermans and sinemas who gleefully kneecap our progress while pointing at the over-the-top style of the GOP they act as a ratchet for. I hope you tell me to be thankful the boiling pot of water will only go up 1 degree instead of 5, and that making it go down in temperature is wishful thinking. I need to know that the "sane" folks like you have it all figured out and that's why my entire life has been American decline and end-stage capitalist hell. Just keep doing what we've been doing and it will be fine.

    I'm trans, have trans friends, have immigrant friends, and date an immigrant trans woman I am desperately trying to protect. I hope that you, like so many liberals before you, tell me to "enjoy the camps". Show me those true colors.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Democrats doing nothing to improve the material conditions of the working class is what keeps voters away. They never offer something to vote for, only against. If they offer no reason to support them they don't deserve support

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    You're shooting the messenger here.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Do you think history is a series of discrete events with no relationship to what has come before?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 7 months ago

    The US education system teaches, on behalf of the government, that every event is self contained and compartmentalized with no connection to future or past events. It distracts from incremental fascism. Much the way they whine about Putin and what he's done without acknowledging it was the US, Bill Clinton and his government, interfering in Russian elections and getting Boris Yeltsin reelected who nominated Putin to proceed him. Or how Larry Ellison now owns a majority chunk of US entertainment and news which is only possible because of Bill Clinton telecom reform act.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago

    It's liberals that keep people like Trump in power, it's liberals that put people like Trump into power by never addressing those material conditions. Democrats got the black vote in the '60s because they improved the material conditions of the black community. Now they've done nothing but abandoned them along with everyone else from the non-white working class

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