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Punish the Democrats, she says (discuss.online)

submitted 7 months ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to c/leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world

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[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 7 months ago (60 children)

I voted for her but if they put Gavin newsom, I don't know if I can care anymore.

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[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

I don't think people arguing against you get newsom he fundamentally has no real beliefs and will just do things to get more power. He throws the dem base under the bus at every opportunity and is somehow more pro billionaire that the average corp dem.

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[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I would rather have pritsker, at least he seems to have a backbone among the Democrat governors. I also think having conservative Democrats brings us further right so more evil Republicans can get in power.

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[–] Peasley@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Gavin running for president might flip California red lol. He is hated here across the political spectrum.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago

If Gavin Newsom is the dem candidate I will not be able to stomach voting for him, im a trans person and I refuse to vote for someone who would actively backstab me

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 37 points 7 months ago (16 children)

I hate that guy, but hate cannot make Me act against My own interests. Well it can a little bit, especially in fast moving situations. But it can't do it with big decisions like My vote.

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[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Yea, but from all his talks and bills I don't trust him to not be against queer people. So in a way they both will be against my own interests.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 20 points 7 months ago

My actions and his actions are two very different things. If he primaries, I may tell people to vote for him against the R, having told people to vote against him in the primaries. In both cases I would be acting in alignment with My interests, for they are two very different choices. I will hope for the best and plan for the worst.

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (1 child)

He will be more against queer people than whoever the Republicans put forth? Really?

If candidate A wants you to hide your queerness and use the wrong bathroom, and candidate B wants to force you to be straight or go to jail or a conversion camp, are you really going to throw your hands up in the air and say it's not worth voting?

Voting for someone does not mean you support everything they stand for. It just means you think they are the best option of what has been laid before you.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Voting for someone does not mean you support everything they stand for.

I've seen what centrists do when they don't get their very first choice. They campaigned against Mamdani and formed a PAC to get McCain elected.

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[–] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Your courage to do anything will help in the long run.

Please at least consider the option that helps some others.

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[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

It's not even that. EVERYONE is harmed by fascists. Or, if you'd like to rephrase it this way: EVERYONE is harmed much more by fascists. Either way, in the general, vote blue. In the primaries, vote for the best option. And if you can run for office, run for office.

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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

He's against all people who aren't Gavin Newsom. He's clearly a snake

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[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

Single issue voting is how fascists win.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social -2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Voting is how fascists win.

This won't be fixed by voting. It never could have been and it never will be.

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[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Voting is how fascists win.

I'm just quoting the stupidest thing I've read this week for posterity.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

Am I wrong?

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[–] daychilde@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Well, I don't know here, let's fucking use a brain cell or two.

Arguably, sure, facists win because people vote for them.

And do you know how facists lose? PEOPLE VOTE FOR NOT-FASCISTS.

So what you said was true and also the most useless fucking worthless statement I've read all week.

After all, the entire fucking point here is STOP VOTING FOR FASCISTS.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 7 months ago

And do you know how facists lose? PEOPLE VOTE FOR NOT-FASCISTS.

Historically speaking, when have fascists ever been voted out of power?

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 1 point 7 months ago

I hate that guy, but hate cannot make Me act against My own interests

If only everyone on Lemmy were this intelligent lol

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 21 points 7 months ago (38 children)

If it was a race between Gavin Newsom and JD Vance I’d vote Newsom in an instant.

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[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

I agree but it’s like asking “where would you like to be stabbed?”

For any Democrat trying to “move to the center” I’d like to point towards Labour in UK and ask them how that’s going.

Thankfully 2028 is a political lifetime away and Newsom might not even be relevant.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 27 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Newsom would tell the base to fuck off while funding ICE and war, guaranteeing republican victories in 2030 and 32. He would be a Biden 2.0.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Biden did a lot of great things during his time as president and it’s a testament to the failing american education system and the right-wing propaganda machine how people couldn’t see it.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

He also enabled genocide in Palestine and set the stage for Trump to win

All in all, a net negative to the world.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Dumb shit americans voting Trump or third party brought Trump into power.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

That's like saying the fever is what's making you feel bad.

Like, sure. But you're blaming the symptom not the cause. It's the virus that did it.

Wagging your finger at those disillusioned by Dems being shit clearly hasn't worked multiple times now. Maybe we should try something else.

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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 7 points 7 months ago

It's also a testament to how bad the Biden administration failed at messaging.

Biden's BBB and infrastructure spending was some of the best legislature of our lifetimes(yes BBB was watered down, corrupted, and did not meet the moment, but the bar is in hell).

Instead of doing full-court media blitz to advertise this victory to voters, they said almost nothing. Too afraid that Biden would reveal his dementia to the public, I guess. Fewest press conferences in modern presidential history, by far.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago

Labour UK has been kind of astounding to watch. They started strong then somewhere around six months in it started to get wonky. And now it’s like some sort of Labourexit. Bizarre. But I guess that's why the Greens are growing.

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[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (25 children)

It's not going to be JD. Mark my words, save my comment, it's going to be Tucker Carlson. And if that happens and Dems haven't changed their tune we are absolutely fucked.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -2 points 7 months ago (24 children)

If that happens and leftists are still their own biggest enemies with their pursuit of an ideologically pure candidate that doesn’t exist we’ll be fucked.

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[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (22 children)

I don't think most leftists are looking for an ideologically pure candidate, they're looking for someone who will actually represent the people. The Israel issue is a great example of this disconnect; amongst Dem voters 90% are against supporting Israel, and yet there's only a handful of Democrat politicians who have are agaimst sending Israel military aid. It's really not a high bar for candidates to clear, and yet establishment Dems just keep SPRINTING to the right.

Leftists arent their own enemies, their enemies are neoliberals.

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[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 7 months ago (20 children)

Newsom is not left wing just because his interns make fun of Trump on twitter. Some people don't want their options to be "fascist" or "neoliberal" and shills like you critizise them more than they do with the literal nazis keeping this system in place

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (18 children)

I have friends and family getting their rights taken away and getting deported right now I need Trump gone.

Then you need a candidate who can win. Not a candidate you want because they're a genocidal piece of shit and you love nothing in this world but genocide.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 point 7 months ago (17 children)

Single issue voters are the worse.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (16 children)

Yeah, you should find an issue other than genocide to support.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Only because you can't imagine supporting anything but genocide.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (12 children)

No one's making you ignore the concerns of everyone but netanyahu. You do that on your own with no prompting.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (10 children)

You're disappointed that you didn't get his endorsement.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (8 children)

You call everyone who doesn't masturbate to dead Palestinian children a russian.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I'm not digging through the genocidal compost heap that is your comment history.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

That’s convenient.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

To not have your time wasted by a sealioning genocidal troll, yup.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

I think you’re confused by the meaning of most of the words in that sentence.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sorry, a gaslighting sealioning genocidal troll.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

You keep making accusations that don’t line up with anyone’s reality.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

More gaslighting from the genocide wing. Name one policy democrats fought for harder than they fought to make sure netanyahu got his weapons.

EDIT: And suddenly the rapid fire responses fall silent. The genocide wing knows they only fight for one thing.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Just like last time

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

That’s because yOu LoVe tEh GeNoSiiiiiDe!!11!

I, however, am SO much smarter and better than you. I choose to let trump win.

. . . Wait how was this supposed to work again?

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

yOu LoVe tEh GeNoSiiiiiDe

You downplay opposition to your only policy. Because, and this is the only true thing about you or any centrist: YOU. LOVE. GENOCIDE.

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