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[–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

It’s not about proving a negative, it’s about acknowledging that we cannot possibly know one way or the other.

The atheists I have interacted with all my life have always told me that there cannot possibly be a god. That’s a belief, by definition.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Because there's no proof, no evidence. Every piece of 'evidence' has been "trust me, bro".

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Every piece of 'evidence' has been "trust me, bro".

    On both sides, yes.

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  • [–] 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    What 'both sides'?

    One says, "gods exist, trust me (and my personal experiences without hard verifiable evidence)."

    The other side says, "I don't believe you, prove it."

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You're forgetting the response from the theist.

    Theist: God exists.

    Atheist: I don't believe you.

    Theist: How can you not believe me? You have no evidence, therefore my God exists.

    Atheist: ...

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    That's effectively trying to prove a negative, which is nigh impossible.

    Also, it's commonplace for a believer te be unable to empathize with a nonbeliever: it's unfathomable to them that non-belief could be possible.

    It's akin to a person with loving parents to ever consider that their parents could be unloving, their minds can't comprehend it.

    So the believer goes about life thinking everything is a belief, even atheism. Which is an incorrect assessment.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    That's a bold statement. Can you prove that we cannot possibly know one way or the other?

    Most theists believe in an all-powerful god. If such a god exists, it could absolutely prove that it exists, otherwise it wouldn't be all powerful. So far, it hasn't done so, and no one has presented me any convincing evidence, so I don't believe in a god.

    You should meet some more atheists. Most atheists are agnostic atheists -- I don't know whether or not there is a god, but I currently do not believe in a god.

    Yes, some atheists do think they know there is no god. That is a belief and requires proof, which like the theists, they don't really have.

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