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Why greens are weak in Canada while strong in many European countries? (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/canadapolitics@lemmy.ca
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[–] 4 points 7 months ago (27 children)

We are a petro state, and our dollar tracks the price of oil.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (25 children)

    We also loooove big trucks and quads and snowmobiles and big camper trailers and boats, and we all live in the suburbs. The physical construction of our cities and infrastructure is basically anaethema to any kind of green transition, and our worst idiots (30+% of the country) have this tied up in an idea of personal freedom, with any steps toward sustainability being totalitarian communism

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (24 children)

    Look at municipal zoning in the most progressive areas of Canada, let's not pretend its just the Cons at fault for our current state.

    The left also supports mass immigration with no place to put anyone given our housing deficit, leading to even more people commuting hours to work.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (8 children)

    To the extent that there's a left in Canada, anyway. The purpose of mass immigration is to keep housing prices high, as financialized housing is both the primary means of retirement savings and is also a cornerstone of the economy.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (7 children)

    Ya I agree, David Eby is the closest we've got. But he's torching himself with indigenous land rights issues, by giving privately owned land away.

    Look at this new clown: https://thewalrus.ca/ndp-leader-avi-lewis-wants-to-reverse-carneys-immigration-cuts/

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

    Lewis's proposals seem reasonable to me. On one hand you can't just have a destabilizingly high rate of immigration, but on the other it's extremely unjust to just deport a bunch of people who are already here, Trump style. We need a reasonable level of immigration as well as protection for refugees - this century is going to see a massive influx of refugees in general, and if we become Festung Kanada it will rot us from the inside out.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    Sure, eat the young to feed the rich old boomers that own all the real estate. Let's see if that resonates.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    At some point we're going to have to definancialize housing, and the NDP Lewis is the closest option to that. The libs and cons sure as hell would never do it

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Its financialized due to cheap debt and a shortages, caused by the BoC and the NDP themselves supporting mass immigration.

    I don't see anything Avi is pushing to definancialize it, if anything he wants to exacerbate shortages to encourage further speculation. I'd be curious what you think he's suggesting that will accomplish it.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Broadly, he's a step in the right direction, turning the NDP back to its socialist roots. At some point we could just have the government build housing and old age pensions, eliminating the need to have a house be a financial instrument for retirement

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Margins aren't very high on houses for developers, its largely government policy that is the highest cost, largely things like zoning and developer taxes. So how far can prices possibly fall by eliminating the developer profit, 10% as a non-profit, assuming they can do it with the same efficiency.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    What part of Canada isn't conservative?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (7 children)

    Are you asking which provinces are liberal, or are you asking which provinces are communist?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (6 children)

    The answer to both is neither.

    The Liberal Party is still conservative.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

    I don't know what that means. Define conservative.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    Right wing/regressive policies.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    Ah, so policies you don't agree with then.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    What makes you think I disagree with them?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    The largest cities tend to be very Liberal, and zoning laws, developer taxes, and slow pemitting are the worst.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    zoning laws, developer taxes, and slow pemitting are the worst.

    These are anti-liberal policies.

    And the Liberal Party is conservative.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Doesn't Liberal mean freedom, or you're saying it as the Liberal party?

    Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy that emphasizes individual rights, liberty, and equality before the law. It advocates for a government that protects personal freedoms and promotes democratic values, often supporting a market economy and civil rights.

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