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[–] 9 points 7 months ago (27 children)

I, and everyone I know, have voted against him 3 times. We are a Republic, not a democracy.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    You and everyone you know plus 90 million who DGAF.

    Try to actually hear this: we, the rest of the world, are tired of your shit. Get it together.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    They appear to have it together unless you're suggesting they're obligated to ineffectually martyr themselves for an apathetic population who won't help them. No need to antagonize the minority of good Americans.

    Everyone sucks off Luigi but at the end of the day, everyone there will let the system mulch him.

    You act tough. As a spectator, egging people on but staying out of the line of fire yourself. Armchair Rambo. But if it's your actual life on the line? Hmm, doubt you'd do what you preach if you were in their shoes.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    Yeah but with that extreme narrative we are all culprit by association with our ancestors. Like because I’m Belgian I am guilty of fucking over a whole continent ? Dude in Iran have it coming because at some point Persia was a bit into forcible borders expansion? And Germans… all of them are in the bag as well? That’s some extremely simplistic view on a very complex world.

    As much as the situation in the states is infuriating we must not generalise and antagonise the good guys over there. We kindof need them to keep steering the situation for a better turn.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    The whole continent I do not know, but the Congo Belge? Bro you won't get away easy with this one.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah because my ancestors who were very busy dying in the mines are complicit with the management of the times. All around good times IIRC.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    I'm waloon too. We are responsable. It's our responsibility to change what we can. We're not talking about self flagellation.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    What would be concrete action to « change what we can » with regard to that past of ours? I’m trying to educate my sons so that they don’t grow being assholes and I behave as much as I can myself… but beside that it’s a bit unclear.

    Also in my understanding being responsible entails to a form of accountability and control over the actions : I am very sure that in my line no fucking one was ever any of that wrt Congo. We’ve been on the poor paysan side for as long as I could dig.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    i dont have a precise answer mate, but doing something is better than nothing. Les sages-femmes etaient en greve a l'hopital des marolles, bah j'ai ete leur filer des courses. Quand elle s'est fait interviewe par la rtbf, elles ont dit "on a le soutient des voisins".

    On parle pas de responsabilite personelle, t'as bien raison, c'est pas ma faute si les vieux coloniaux ont ete piller l'afrique, et pareil que toi, mes ancetres etaient cheminots ou bossaient dans les mines ou a l'usine. N'empeche que si on est un pays riche a l'heure actuelle, c'est en partie grace a la colonisation. C'est de la responsabilite societale, pas individuelle.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Je suis pas certain d’être tellement d’accord sur le dernier point. Je suspecte que ce soit principalement des individus qui ont bénéficié des pillages. Il y a eu des retombées evidentes mais la Belgique était déjà riche avant…

    Généralement en ce qui me concerne j’essaie juste d’être qqun de pas trop mal mais je ne lierai jamais ça a une cause historique précise. C’est fallacieux pour moi. Et j’en ai pas besoin. De mon point de vue c’est un devoir absolu d’être qqun de « correct ».

    Mais bon, si se culpabiliser peut aider pq pas…

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Non bien sur, il s'agit pas de se culpabiliser. Mais bon, au niveau macro, c'est simple, des individus s'en sont mis pleins les fouilles, mais les institutions aussi. La BBL par exemple, ou de grands groupes industriels.

    Bonne journee copain

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  • [+] -4 points 7 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The adults of today? Or the children of yesterday when the cards were dealt? Maybe today’s children as well since eventually they are tomorrow’s adults…

    I understand the rage but this is just too simplistic a view. And it doesn’t help, it just steer some shit.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    And how very uneducated and frankly argumentative in the least impressive way, while saying so many things you feel are smart, yet actually don't make any sense whatever. Yes I use an exit, because you are a wall of idiot and throwing myself against you is a losing battle, no matter what facts are, because these don't matter to someone like you. I gave up on arguing with idiots like you years ago on Reddit. I'm not starting it here.

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