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[–] 82 points 7 months ago (14 children)

It's so silly that people are rushing to defend vaping here. Just admit that inhaling shit into your lungs isn't good for you and that the rich people profiting off your addiction want to keep up the charade as long as possible. Just admit, like all people who smoke cigarettes do, that it's bad for you and that you'll continue doing it.

I drank diet sodas for years, but I avoided defending it even though the evidence was inconclusive. I know the corporate goons want it to be perceived as healthy, so I don't want to play into their plans regardless of how convenient it is for me. Our addictions aren't healthy, and we need to own up to that even if we aren't strong enough to resist them.

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I'll always be thankful that vaping got me off tobacco, and eventually nicotine too. But there's an abyssal gulf between the self assembled, diy vape and self mixed liquid that vaping started at, and the white ox grade addiction pods that vaping has become.

    There's absolutely no reason to have the default strength be 50mg/mL, unless optimising for addiction without quite hitting a poisonous dose.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    There's also dry herb vapes, which while not innocent by any means, are likely better than anything with ejuice

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    The article is about nicotine vapes, not weed.

    As long as you are low temp vaping weed, dry herb vapes don't emit any meaningful amount of carcinogens till you start getting above 180C. Inhaling anything besides air isn't great but as far I'm aware (I'm not super educated on the matter) low temp dry herb weed vapes are less harmful than the nasty disposal nic vapes everyone's addicted too.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    yeah and no cotton wick or coils to burn out when you run out of juice / clog / whatever, which I believe is part of the reason nicotine vapes can release heavy metals / carcinogens.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Which fricking vape pod has 50mg/mL? That's even worse than the strongest cigarettes. I was on 3-5mg/mL and eventually weaned off completely. Good god, 50mg would be awful!

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    Just admit, like all people who smoke cigarettes do, that it’s bad for you and that you’ll continue doing it.

    I don't know why people can't just do this. I drink


    sometimes like a fish


    and I know it's not good for me and likely will take years off of my life. But I like it. So oh fucking well.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Had a diet soda after work yesterday. Just sat down right now after getting home from work and am craving one intensely.

    There is no way something so yummy and habit forming is consequence-free.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Idk man, liking diet soda is kinda weird.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Right? There's nothing good about synthetic sweetener. Why not go with the "devil you know" (sugar) which actually tastes better? I don't get it

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Can't speak for the poster above, but my pancreas decided a couple decades ago to stop producing insulin. So, the "devil I know" will turn my blood into pancake syrup in short order if I'm not careful.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Just admit, like all people who smoke cigarettes do, that it’s bad for you

    I still know people who insist smoking isn't bad for you. Typically with some kind of "Actually, oranges and swimming pools kill more people than cigarettes do, so it's no big deal" rejoinder. It's genuinely maddening.

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