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Cost of Oil Wars versus Renewables (midwest.social)

submitted 7 months ago by MNByChoice@midwest.social to c/climate@slrpnk.net

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A report estimated the cost to stop using oil and natural gas for the USA in 2019 to be $4.5 Trillion and that this is similar to what we USA paid for the "War on Terror".

The 2003 Iraq War cost 1.4 Trillion directly and maybe 2.4 Trillion in finance charges.

Note: I am not saying these wars were necessarily due to oil, but they may have gone differently.

I wonder how much USA oil wars have cost compared to moving to solar, wind, and battery?

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago

It is also not just the US. Russia, Saudia Arabia, UAE and Iran are all petrostates, which have a long history of exporting war. Not quite on the same level as the US, but still a lot. When you add that up about half the wars are oil wars in this century.

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