▲ 991 ▼ Truthpaste (lemmy.world) submitted 7 months ago by FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinteresting@lemmy.world 113 comments fedilink hide all child comments I've never seen labeling like this before. Interesting.
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 147 points 7 months ago (21 children) Can we start doing this with everything? permalink fedilink source hideshow 21 child comments replies: [+] username_1@programming.dev 71 points 7 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 20 points 7 months ago (2 children) A lot of times it's because those things required maintenance, and it was possible to do with basic tools. Most things these days aren't built with maintenance in mind, mostly because they're obsolete before they need to be fixed. There are certainly things that doesn't apply to, but for a lot of consumer products, it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago "Obsolete" permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Also if a CPU breaks in any way, you can't fix it. Best to throw it away and get a new one. Good thing is they basically never break, anyways. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago* good luck getting the electrical scheme of a current CPU not because they're secret, but because they're pointless. you wouldn't understand anything from such a schematic. it's way too complicated, and has to be broken down with lots of extra annotations to be comprehensible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 44 points 7 months ago (5 children) ingredient lables can be pretty long. I think we need a QR code with this and much more information. it should be able to back track where you product came from and such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago Either that or it creates an incentive to use fewer, simpler ingredients. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) Can QRs fit enough text to hold all the ingredients and their descriptions? I'd hate it if they were just links to some crappy government website that'll inevitably go down couple of years down the line permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] randy@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Maximum 4296 alphanumeric characters, but that's with the largest-sized code and low/no error correction (so not always practical). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago And with only the English alphabet, just like in the good old days of ASCII. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago this is one of those things where distributed ledger would be useful as it should at least track chain of custody then there should be enough room left over for the ingredients table. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cogman@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (7 children) The problem is a lot of nasty things come from less scary sounding things. For example: Ingredient: Ricin, Where it comes from: Castor beans, What it's used for: Poison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Fatal@piefed.social 35 points 7 months ago* (1 child) There's historical truth to this. In toothpaste, no less. Ingredient: Asbestos Comes from: naturally occurring mineral Used for: mild abrasive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago To be fair here though, how much toothpaste do you dry and snort these days? permalink fedilink source parent [–] shynoise@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (3 children) I assume there's a better example to make your point because at least here you're explicitly stating ricin is used for poison, an objectively good thing to know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cogman@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children) My point being that knowledge of where something comes from doesn't tell you if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I could have rephrased "what it's used for" to be "laxative". A true statement which doesn't expose the fact that ricin is a pretty powerful poison. People are biased to think "chemical name bad, common name good" and that's the problem I'm exposing. You can pull out a lot of toxic stuff from things that sound harmless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 7 months ago The calculus here isn't strictly whether it's "healthy" or not. There are quite a few ingredients that can be derived from both plants and petroleum, for example, and I would choose the one derived from plants every time permalink fedilink source parent [–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago This is still an improvement, let's leave it at that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] turdas@suppo.fi 9 points 7 months ago Ingredient: Hydroxyl acid Where it comes from: Deep underground well What it's used for: Industrial solvent permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago I wish. That would be rad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dicska@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Inb4 food corporations go: Water - water - extra weight for cheap permalink fedilink source parent
[+] username_1@programming.dev 71 points 7 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 20 points 7 months ago (2 children) A lot of times it's because those things required maintenance, and it was possible to do with basic tools. Most things these days aren't built with maintenance in mind, mostly because they're obsolete before they need to be fixed. There are certainly things that doesn't apply to, but for a lot of consumer products, it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago "Obsolete" permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Also if a CPU breaks in any way, you can't fix it. Best to throw it away and get a new one. Good thing is they basically never break, anyways. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago* good luck getting the electrical scheme of a current CPU not because they're secret, but because they're pointless. you wouldn't understand anything from such a schematic. it's way too complicated, and has to be broken down with lots of extra annotations to be comprehensible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 20 points 7 months ago (2 children) A lot of times it's because those things required maintenance, and it was possible to do with basic tools. Most things these days aren't built with maintenance in mind, mostly because they're obsolete before they need to be fixed. There are certainly things that doesn't apply to, but for a lot of consumer products, it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago "Obsolete" permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Also if a CPU breaks in any way, you can't fix it. Best to throw it away and get a new one. Good thing is they basically never break, anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Also if a CPU breaks in any way, you can't fix it. Best to throw it away and get a new one. Good thing is they basically never break, anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago* good luck getting the electrical scheme of a current CPU not because they're secret, but because they're pointless. you wouldn't understand anything from such a schematic. it's way too complicated, and has to be broken down with lots of extra annotations to be comprehensible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 44 points 7 months ago (5 children) ingredient lables can be pretty long. I think we need a QR code with this and much more information. it should be able to back track where you product came from and such. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago Either that or it creates an incentive to use fewer, simpler ingredients. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) Can QRs fit enough text to hold all the ingredients and their descriptions? I'd hate it if they were just links to some crappy government website that'll inevitably go down couple of years down the line permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] randy@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Maximum 4296 alphanumeric characters, but that's with the largest-sized code and low/no error correction (so not always practical). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago And with only the English alphabet, just like in the good old days of ASCII. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago this is one of those things where distributed ledger would be useful as it should at least track chain of custody then there should be enough room left over for the ingredients table. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago Either that or it creates an incentive to use fewer, simpler ingredients. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) Can QRs fit enough text to hold all the ingredients and their descriptions? I'd hate it if they were just links to some crappy government website that'll inevitably go down couple of years down the line permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] randy@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Maximum 4296 alphanumeric characters, but that's with the largest-sized code and low/no error correction (so not always practical). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago And with only the English alphabet, just like in the good old days of ASCII. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago this is one of those things where distributed ledger would be useful as it should at least track chain of custody then there should be enough room left over for the ingredients table. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] randy@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Maximum 4296 alphanumeric characters, but that's with the largest-sized code and low/no error correction (so not always practical). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago And with only the English alphabet, just like in the good old days of ASCII. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago And with only the English alphabet, just like in the good old days of ASCII. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago this is one of those things where distributed ledger would be useful as it should at least track chain of custody then there should be enough room left over for the ingredients table. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cogman@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (7 children) The problem is a lot of nasty things come from less scary sounding things. For example: Ingredient: Ricin, Where it comes from: Castor beans, What it's used for: Poison. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Fatal@piefed.social 35 points 7 months ago* (1 child) There's historical truth to this. In toothpaste, no less. Ingredient: Asbestos Comes from: naturally occurring mineral Used for: mild abrasive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago To be fair here though, how much toothpaste do you dry and snort these days? permalink fedilink source parent [–] shynoise@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (3 children) I assume there's a better example to make your point because at least here you're explicitly stating ricin is used for poison, an objectively good thing to know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cogman@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children) My point being that knowledge of where something comes from doesn't tell you if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I could have rephrased "what it's used for" to be "laxative". A true statement which doesn't expose the fact that ricin is a pretty powerful poison. People are biased to think "chemical name bad, common name good" and that's the problem I'm exposing. You can pull out a lot of toxic stuff from things that sound harmless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 7 months ago The calculus here isn't strictly whether it's "healthy" or not. There are quite a few ingredients that can be derived from both plants and petroleum, for example, and I would choose the one derived from plants every time permalink fedilink source parent [–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago This is still an improvement, let's leave it at that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] turdas@suppo.fi 9 points 7 months ago Ingredient: Hydroxyl acid Where it comes from: Deep underground well What it's used for: Industrial solvent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fatal@piefed.social 35 points 7 months ago* (1 child) There's historical truth to this. In toothpaste, no less. Ingredient: Asbestos Comes from: naturally occurring mineral Used for: mild abrasive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago To be fair here though, how much toothpaste do you dry and snort these days? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago To be fair here though, how much toothpaste do you dry and snort these days? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shynoise@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (3 children) I assume there's a better example to make your point because at least here you're explicitly stating ricin is used for poison, an objectively good thing to know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cogman@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children) My point being that knowledge of where something comes from doesn't tell you if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I could have rephrased "what it's used for" to be "laxative". A true statement which doesn't expose the fact that ricin is a pretty powerful poison. People are biased to think "chemical name bad, common name good" and that's the problem I'm exposing. You can pull out a lot of toxic stuff from things that sound harmless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 7 months ago The calculus here isn't strictly whether it's "healthy" or not. There are quite a few ingredients that can be derived from both plants and petroleum, for example, and I would choose the one derived from plants every time permalink fedilink source parent [–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago This is still an improvement, let's leave it at that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cogman@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children) My point being that knowledge of where something comes from doesn't tell you if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I could have rephrased "what it's used for" to be "laxative". A true statement which doesn't expose the fact that ricin is a pretty powerful poison. People are biased to think "chemical name bad, common name good" and that's the problem I'm exposing. You can pull out a lot of toxic stuff from things that sound harmless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 7 months ago The calculus here isn't strictly whether it's "healthy" or not. There are quite a few ingredients that can be derived from both plants and petroleum, for example, and I would choose the one derived from plants every time permalink fedilink source parent [–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago This is still an improvement, let's leave it at that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@retrofed.com 10 points 7 months ago The calculus here isn't strictly whether it's "healthy" or not. There are quite a few ingredients that can be derived from both plants and petroleum, for example, and I would choose the one derived from plants every time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago This is still an improvement, let's leave it at that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] turdas@suppo.fi 9 points 7 months ago Ingredient: Hydroxyl acid Where it comes from: Deep underground well What it's used for: Industrial solvent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago I wish. That would be rad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Inb4 food corporations go: Water - water - extra weight for cheap permalink fedilink source parent