The war in Iran has caused a spike in gas prices that is hitting California consumers especially hard, according to data from the American Automobile Association (AAA).

AAA reports that in California, the most expensive US market for gas, the average price per gallon on Monday was $5.20, compared with $3.47 nationally. The national average climbed nearly $0.50 since the conflict began more than a week ago, while in the Golden state it rose by $0.55.

Since the US and Israel launched attacks on Iran on 28 February, leading to intensifying violence across the Middle East, the price of oil surged to more than $100 a barrel for the first time in nearly four years. The conflict has damaged oil and gas facilities and stranded ships carrying roughly 20m barrels of oil a day in the Gulf.

About 20% of the world’s oil is shipped through the strait of Hormuz every day but the channel has essentially been closed for the last week.

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[–] 15 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Ha. Try 2.40/litre ($11/gallon) in Norway.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    True, but density, public transportation, social services, and electrification are very different in much of the US. Fuel prices hit differently depending on where you live in the world.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    True, our fuel prices are way higher here in Europe, but we have a solid public transportation network, we have walkable cities and in countries like Norway the EVs are the majority.

    From everything I've seen about US cities and American friends I talk to, for most people, if you don't have a car you can't get to work. That is a thought that is hard to process for Europeans.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    If you don't have a car you can't get to work

    This is it. This is the difference. Along with everything being spread out, and fuel efficient cars being a distinct minority. "Just ride a bike" is something I'd love to do, but I'd get killed by some monster-fueled purposefully stupid prick in a truck. And that person might get a ticket. The very idea of taking a bus or train to work is pure fantasy where I live.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Norway isn't dense. It has less population density than the US does

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    True.

    I’m primarily talking about specific regions of the US, not the whole place. Many places in the US are famous for sprawl.

    Take a city like Huston, Texas. Triple the population of Oslo, but everyone is insanely spread out, and even city centers don’t feel particularly walkable.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Fuel prices hit hard of you're a Norwegian living outside of the cities (which is the majority of Norwegians). You really need to have a car in the countryside, as both buses and trains are few and far between. There's still plenty of fossil-fueled vehicles out here. People keep them because they either can't afford to make the jump over to electric, don't trust the EV's to handle winter well enough, or because they're worried about the technological hurdle (Norway is an aging population).

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    US gallon is 3.78L. $9/gallon.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Ah, you're right. My goodness, couldn't the Americans even agree with the rest of the world on make-believe silly-units?

    "While we can agree that a gallon should be the nice, round sum of 32 gills, I find it ludicrous that you define it as five fluid ounces. I'm putting my foot down. In the United States, it will be the much more manageable four ounces, which will be a different size to your ounces. Nyyyaanyyaanyanyanyaaa!"

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    You haven't had decades of anti-public-transit propaganda in Norway, I bet.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Don't need the propaganda, we just need a completely Oslo-centric government that will happily spend money on public transit, as long as it's in Oslo. Pretty much all the governments have been like that for most of my life.

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