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‘It’s too late’: David Suzuki says the fight against climate change is lost - iPolitics (www.ipolitics.ca)
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The overall message here I think is: action is still necessary, but the reality is that we're too caught up in politics and economics and we missed our chance at mitigation. Now we need to look to how to cope with what's coming.

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[–] -1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Doesnt really matter whos right in theory, because nothing of the sort will happen as long as fasco-capitalism rules the earth.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    Exactly

    Without overthrowing global capitalism, we will absolutely not slow this roll in any meaningful way. Every time someone passes a good law somewhere else a company just ignores it. And so on.

    We've fucked it. The time to take this seriously was 30, 40 years ago. But PEOPLE IN POWER made sure that climate change was a hoax to half the population so they could keep getting rich. And its been that way since.

    Nothing has changed. Nothing. Every month I see widely respected science reporting telling us "oh NO, its much worse than we thought." Read the actual reporting and tell me, are we doing better? Isn't AMOC about to collapse no matter what?

    Dont get me wrong, I love nature and intend to fight for it every chance I've got anyway. Im on the side of life, here.

    But im gonna lose.

    Hope is a lie. We don't get to hope anymore. What we need is determination.

    Edit: cowards.

    Yall just don't get it. Do all you want, the US Navy ALONE does enough damage every year to doom us all. Are we gonna stop all shipping? Or are we gonna keep doing damage for the next 5-10 years as tipping points get passed? These are self-perpetuating problems, once crossed.

    Right now, RIGHT NOW, our world is being murdered. Some life will continue. But we are fucked.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nothing has changed. Nothing.

    But it has.

    Alternative energy is cheaper and more viable than anyone 40 years ago could've ever thought possible. China is building out insane amounts of solar energy, and India is starting to as well. The EU is reducing emissions, if slowly.

    Yes, the US going hard right and abandoning climate goals is a shitshow, but they're not the entire world. Good things are still happening.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And im not saying they aren't, or that we shouldn't do them.

    Im saying it's not nearly what we SHOULD be doing, and we don't deserve to rest comfortably knowing some techbros and Chinese manufacturing are working on it.

    Look at what the rich and powerful are doing. They're literally preparing for the apocalypse. They've lied about climate change time and time again but they know what's coming.

    The US doesn't exist in isolation, the damage this country does affects everyone. That's how this works. And it will be the Global South who suffers most, unfairly, as always.

    So, again, I tell you to be realistic about the future. Sure yes do everything we can - but deal with the existential crisis now when you've still got AC.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This is an anarchist instance, we're on the same page. Ending capitalism is the only real way out of all of this.

    But right now, at this very moment, things are not doomed. They could be doomed in the future, but that isn't written yet. So yes, fight like hell, but realize that a lot of people who read comments like "We're fucked. It's over", or read the OP's article, will come away thinking we've already reached a human extinction level event, which we absolutely have not yet, and can still influence.

    It's important to frame it that we can still make a difference, otherwise people will simply give up and not worry about trying to fix things since they believe it's all fucked and pointless, which can be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Ok cool, looks like we should all just commit suicide right now then.

    Come on then fellow doomers, let's all hold hands and fling ourselves off the nearest cliff.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Is that your response to existential crisis? It's not mine.

    Grow up.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    But yours is just to whinge about "there's nothing we can do" and yet you tell me to grow up.

    Piss off you emotional vampire.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, mine is to acknowledge were losing and do it anyway.

    read, dumbass

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