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xkcd #3214: Electric Vehicles (imgs.xkcd.com)
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xkcd #3214: Electric Vehicles

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Now that I've finally gotten an electric vehicle, I'm never going back to an acoustic one.

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Now that I've finally gotten an electric vehicle, I'm never going back to an acoustic one.
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[+] -19 points 8 months ago* (13 children)

I will get an electric vehicle when the range/charge speed will allow me to make it 1200 miles in 24 hours, and the battery will last longer than 7 years without significant degradation.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    1200 miles in 24 hours

    Just curious how often do you go more than 300 miles in a day, and if you do with any frequency how much would it really hinder you to stop for 45 minutes every 300 miles?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    I don’t live in a city. My commute is around 100 miles. I drive 500 miles one way about 16 times a year. I drive 2400 miles twice a year.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Okay so you’re an outlier for electric cars and should stick with a gas car for the foreseeable future.

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  • [+] -9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah. Hence the reply. You didn’t believe me?

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    No, your original post just came off as “electric cars are completely useless. They don’t fulfill my very specific needs”. Maybe that wasn’t your intention, iunno, but why even say it in the first place?

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    My post was “I will get an electric vehicle when…” I didnt say they were useless. You read into that with your biases. My biases read this OP as ‘Dumb asses don’t realize they can charge the car” when the reality is way more complicated. Charging takes time which extends the travel. The batteries don’t last, because batteries. And they’re not cheap when they degrade to 10% of their range over a handful of years.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    They degrade by about 10% on a 5 year time scale on average. So when your EV is 10 years old its at a state of health is about 80% of original charge. I mean you might get a lemon that degrades faster than that but then typically you're also putting in a warranty claim for a new battery. I'm not sure how long getting to 10% of original charge would even take because who would even keep a car that long?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    You do that drive without stopping to pee or eat? Because my EV is pretty short range and slow charging for a modern EV and it still goes further than I can and it's ready to go again before I am.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    It’s still more an infrastructure problem than a car problem. I wouldn’t have any hesitation doing that in my EV, but the real difference is I live on the east coast where there are plenty of chargers. Actually I suppose the important question is what direction we’re driving 2,400 miles, because I understand the Midwest is a desert

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Just a quick bit of napkin maths on the ioniq5 - it’s quite famously one of the faster ones to charge / decent range.

    Assuming by the numbers on google are correct

    Range of the car is 354 miles (let’s say 350) Car can charge from 10% to 80% in 18 min (let’s say 30 min)

    That means it’ll go from 35 miles of range to 280 - giving it range of 245 miles.

    If you drive 70 MPH for 3.5hr and take a 30 min break you cover 245 miles every 4 hours.

    Which means you can realistically achieve what you are looking for in just under 20 hours.

    This assumes every 4 hours you encounter somewhere with a fast charger capable of what you need.

    This is all highly theoretical and completely dependant on where you’re driving, but the range is possible.

    On a more realistic note, 1200 miles!?! Good lord my legs would be so cramped I wouldn’t be able to walk for days! Good luck with the next trip

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    I can't speak for the latter part, but the former is doable. Assuming you actually want to spend a full 24 hours driving. I say this as someone who did nearly exactly one third the distance in one third the time. Depends on your car of course and if you can fast charge. The real world range on mine ended up being a bit less than 200 miles (260 EPA range) going just over 80MPH in Texas, and it had fast charging capabilities.

    That said, I wouldn't recommend it in the vehicle I used. Really need more like 300+ range to make it decent. Cause I had to fully charge at times to make it to the next fast charger and a full charge is at least twice as long as a quick charge, which is typically going from 20% to 80%. Longer range means mostly only having to charge to 80%. That saves a bunch of time.

    Typical degradation at 7 years wouldn't be bad, but with the type of driving you do I expect the degradation will be worse.

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