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If we can't be bothered to vote in the primaries, wjy would anyone believe us that a progressive candidate would somehow lure millions more to vote?

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[+] 47 points 8 months ago (58 children)
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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    This is the most insane argument I've ever heard. Write them down!

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    What kind of ballot are you using that is just photos and voices?

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  • [+] -11 points 8 months ago (14 children)
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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    It's an open-book test. You don't have to memorize anything. Everyone else has this figured out.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (10 children)

    You're giving excuses that make no sense. No one is saying to vote a straight party ticket. Do your research, take notes on the candidates, go vote. Why are you inventing this memorization nonsense?

    You'll find that, while each candidate can have positions that you agree with and that you don't, but you probably have a pretty good idea which issues matter most to you, so you can focus on those issues. If they say things you agree with about things you care about, and they don't seem like liars, vote for them. You'll probably find one party's platform aligns with your preferences, and you only need to keep track of the ones not in that party if you really want to memorize the candidates. Or, find an organization you agree with and start from their recommendations.

    But just bring your notes to vote, if you're allowed. My state is 100% mail-in voting, so I can fill out the ballot as I research. How many candidates are in your elections that is causing you to panic like this?

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    There should be a free voters guide that gets mailed to all registered voters, and is available at the library.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    I've been to the Mississippi League of Women Voters website. Vote 411. Maybe stop bitching and actually try.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, so Vote 411 was actually a link? Well you coulda saved me digging through AI slop and just posted the link https://www.vote411.org/

    Anyways, that site is useless for giving a list of the potential candidates or anything, it can't even name our Secretary of State. Matter of fact it doesn't give any names at all.

    I searched further and ran across this site. Seems perfectly legit and all, but the goddamn site says my literal registered home address cannot be found.

    https://myelectionday.sos.state.ms.us/VoterOutreach/Pages/VOSearch.aspx

    Isn't the internet/AI slop wonderful?

    I'm so glad that experienced voters are like just go google it, fucking useless.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    Are you capable of wiping your own ass? Honest question. Cause it seems like you are too incompetent to manage anything.

    Vote 411 gives you literally everything you need. You don't even try.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They're on the ballot, that's not secret information, you literally just have to google it

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Trouble is, sometimes voting for either of the two major parties hands a vote to people whom you don't want winning, and you know it will lead to a bad outcome: The march toward some flavor of authoritarianism has been obvious for decades. One major party welcomes it, and the other major party doesn't not welcome it. While the system isn't fair, neither is life, and sometimes the system itself is so flawed that it falls apart even if you play by its unfair rules.

    So what was the plan? Democrats win every election forever and ever, amen? The party was cooperating with the Republicans, actively or passively, to put the pieces of an authoritarian system into place. Was that supposed to be fine because Democrats would always be in control of the machinery of repression? Despite the long history of U.S. voters ping-ponging between parties?

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  • [+] -12 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Em dash, AI profile pic... Hmmm...

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Looks like a double dash -- to me, not M

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Fair enough, I assumed LLMs used the markdown double dash for their em dash, mixed with the AI profile pic, and general bad taste of a slop comment, I judged too quickly.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    There are (rare though they may be) people like me who actually know the ALT code for em-dash by heart and have used it for years long before AI. Thanks to people now just assuming I've switched to double-dashes mostly.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    The compose key exists, too (and wincompose for Windows users) — makes it easy to use. And all sorts of other symbols like ¿Por qué no los dos? and I can uſe the old long-'s' character eaſily… (and that's a real ellipsis)

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Holy shit... I had no clue that wincompose exists. For years, I've wanted exactly this. I'm so glad that someone had the same idea, skill, and time to create this. Thank you for sharing!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    <3 <3 <3 The only symbol I've wanted that apparently doesn't have a sequence is for pi. And I know you can add sequences in Linux, but haven't been bothered to figure out if/how with wincompose. heh.

    Have fun! Oh, and one bit that took me a long time to find but I use all the time; ① - numbers in circles, a rare three-character sequence - parentheses surrounding a number i.e. (1) :) (numbers ① through ㊿ exist)

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  • [+] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    What is there to reply to? This conversation has been had a million times here, mixed with what I assumed was an em dash and an AI profile pic, sorry if it's 'not a good look' to call out the slop.

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  • [+] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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  • [+] -17 points 8 months ago (25 children)

    It is really sad you think you are right

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (24 children)

    You should try arguments next time

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  • [+] -13 points 8 months ago* (23 children)

    I am not prepared for the olympics level mental gymnastics necessary to explain participating in the US election system.

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago (21 children)

    I can't remember who the fuck all is who in the first place, aside from the obvious culprits like Turnip.

    Nominal aphasia sucks yo, how do people even have memory banks to remember all the politicians they've probably never met in the first place?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (20 children)

    Well isn't that the beauty of it? "Vote blue no matter who."

    It is easy to remember, you don't need names or complicated things like policies and stances....

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (19 children)

    No, that's not the beauty of it at all. In fact, I find it rather ugly, ignorant, and damn near caveman thinking style.

    If I was to vote, it wouldn't be on a simple color, it would be on each candidates' values and goals. Sadly I can't remember every last candidate, so I do not consider myself a well educated potential voter.

    But hey, if folks wanna keep voting on simple colors, well my favorite color is blue. So if it's so simple, why can't I just pick up a blue card, write my name and voter info on it, and just submit that?

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (16 children)

    All you really need to know is every red candidate is objectively a worse person and worse for America and the world than any blue candidate. That's not to say that the blues are particularly good, but if you have the choice of getting punch in the mouth or shot in the face, you choose to live another day.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    A choice to not participate is a choice to get shot in the face and to get others shot in the face as well. If you're okay with that, then that's on you and really tells what you stand for. It's not just a self choice, it's a selfish choice that directly hurts others.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Not at all, I never said anything about any violence being justified. I'm saying that not participating hurts others, not just you. I don't want anyone hurt, but there are two choices in the US general election, and one is always worse than the other for everyone but the wealthy.

    Getting shot or punched was a metaphor. The point being that red is bad, blue is less bad, and choosing neither directly benefits the red. So long as there are racists, bigots, and other people that just hate demographics for no reason, the world won't be a place of peace. In all of history it never has been. We can get closer to peace by voting for people that aren't pedophiles and war mongers. Not participating in that effort is a choice you can make, you're and adult, and you have enough of the facts to make a semi informed choice. Nobody can make you, we can just help educate you on the pros and cons of these choices.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Do you know what a metaphor is?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Getting metaphorically punched in the mouth or metaphorically getting shot in the face. Neither are actual events, they are metaphors used to illustrate that one side is clearly worse than the other. I never said anyone deserves to get shot in the face. What I said that you quoted is that if you do nothing, you are choosing to support the worst option.

    This isn't a colored sides thing. It's bad vs less bad. There is no third choice. If you choose nothing in means you've chosen bad because of the way a two party FPtP voting system works.

    Most of us want peace. One way that you can help is voting for the least bad option, because either the bad or least bad is going to take power. There are obviously many other things you can do to help others like volunteering and donating. The most significant act though is helping prevent awful from being in power, because their actions will outweigh any individual efforts you are capable of.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago

    Neither are metaphors for me, I've been abused more than I should say. Mostly punched, partly shot at with jammed guns..

    Don't ever doubt someone that sees their life flash before their eyes everytime they sleep and dream, I'm literally not supposed to be alive today.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    I'd rather be the nice stranger on the side of the road helping you change your flat tire than to be thrown into the mix of blind color voting.

    Even with that said, I'd still help you change your tire, whether you're red, blue, tan or brown.

    That's just the sort of person I am.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    And that's great. Ideally there would be more people with that mindset of helping others. As I mentioned this isn't blind color voting. You either support gay and trans rights, or you support Republicans. You support teachers and the poor, or you support Republicans. Take color out if the equation and take voting at its merits like it should be. It just so happens that all of the worst shit is Republican, so it's easy to know who to vote for if you have good ideals, which it sounds like you do.

    If you want to help the most people possible, then it behooves you to vote blue, or do some spot research right before heading to the polls, which will ultimate lead you to the same conclusion.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    Thank you, seriously thank you 👍

    I still don't know how voting actually works, when it happens in my area, when it is, where it is, or how to even properly look all that up without AI slop answers now.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    "I don't want to get hurt" isn't a choice and I have to assume you're like six years old if this is seriously the first time you've look at the way world politics work.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I dunno how world politics work at all.

    I never have, I don't care to participate in the sport of war, I prefer peace.

    But, what did you just say?

    'I don't want to get hurt isn't a choice'?

    What the fuck was that, you promoting violence?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Name me one Republican that doesn't support fascism.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago

    Again, I'm piss poor with names of people I've never spoken with in person. I keep seeing bullshit about this dude Pete H whatever the fuck online, but I don't know anything about him, whether it's all just trash memes, whatever his real values are, or what side he's on.

    Can you not understand that I'm bad with names, I literally know that, I know I have trouble remembering such things, and make my own best educated decision to like not vote when I can't remember such shit the next day?

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