We're happy to announce a long-term partnership with Motorola. We're collaborating on future devices meeting our privacy and security standards with official GrapheneOS support.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/

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[–] -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (15 children)

Isn't Motorola a chinese company?

It's hard - to me at least - to believe that Motorola is allowed to provide a device without backdoor(s). What's the catch here?

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Motorola Mobility is American, and a subsidiary of Lenovo who are Chinese.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    American is not better. Anybody remember Edward Snowden? I'm sure it's only gotten worse since then.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    The US is far, far more of a threat than China even remotely is. That being said, I highly doubt the GOS devs would even consider any collaboration if a backdoor was ever a possibility.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    The US is far, far more of a threat than China even remotely is

    If you're American*

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    or any global north country, honestly, especially in the five eyes

    there’s not much one could do to anger the chinese government enough for them to risk sending agents to kidnap or kill a westerner

    all the US needs is a request to law enforcement

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    or any global north country, honestly, especially in the five eyes

    I dunno what that means. US doesn't have jurisdiction outside the US, just like China doesn't have jurisdiction outside of China, so not a whole lot they can do to you. I have heard of Chinese kidnapping their own people who fled to the US, but I'm not sure how true that is.

    all the US needs is a request to law enforcement

    In the US, yes. Not even that, really.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So does that mean that collaboration is done with American company and not Chinese company?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Simple answer is yes.

    However, Lenovo have full legal and financial control over Motorola. But because Motorola is a subsidiary, it's legally distinct from its parent company. And because it's incorporated in the USA it has to be compliant with US law. So, for example, Lenovo is not permitted to compel Motorola to violate US law.

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    Hardware backdoors still exist.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    For as long as major powers control the production of the majority of computing devices this will be true. But as far as I know there are no short term alternatives for completely open mobile device hardware... so if hardware backdoors are in your threat model then unfortunately mobile devices are not for you...better stick to the very small community of open hardware for laptop/desktop computers for your communication needs.

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