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[–] 16 points 8 months ago (19 children)

I will concede that it was simpler. But definitely not easier.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    Depends what you mean by "easier".

    I think there was more down time in the day. Yes more manual work but not for 8 or 12 hours a day, at least before the industrial revolution.

    There were also more hardships without modern medicine.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Amount of work would also vary by season, region and status. There's bones that get dug up of people who physically fell apart from overwork, basically, if they were slaves or it was just a really rough period. It is true it could be light some times and places, though.

    One thing they didn't have were schedules. Tardiness to meetings was measured in days, and IIRC a Greek philosopher is on record listing them as a form of aestheticism, like flagellation or starving yourself. Hunter gatherers also benefited from doing work we naturally find appealing, and not necessarily having to deal with coercive authority of any kind.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    I imagine any number of slaves would disagree with you on the downtime.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (13 children)

    Is slavery less common today ?

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    About .6% of the world is considered as living in modern slavery.

    In say, the feudal era, that percentage would be some 70 or 80 times higher.

    Maybe you should do some reading?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Sure but ...

    I imagine any number of slaves would disagree with you on the downtime.

    The number of slaves extant today is far greater than at any time in history.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    Are you trolling?

    The number of people living happily in luxury unimaginable to 99% of people who have ever lived is also FAR greater than at any time in human history.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    No, I'm not trolling.

    I just asserting that people generally had more down time in the past.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I just asserting that people generally had more down time in the past.

    By using total instead of share. Which also means there is even a more gigantic number of people with more wealth and leisure than any point in human history.

    Do you see why using total number is mind numbingly silly?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Yes, vastly.

    There's literally no country where it's de jure legal now, and fairly few where it's legal in practice. Compare this to any number of historical societies where they were the majority.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Modern slavery includes forced labor, bonded labor, trafficked people, and child labor - it's analogous to chattel style historic slavery in that the conditions are similar.

    Current estimates are 50m people living in these conditions today, vastly more than at any time in human history.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Modern slavery includes forced labor, bonded labor, trafficked people, and child labor - it’s analogous to chattel style historic slavery in that the conditions are similar.

    No, no it's not. NGOs conflate them sometimes to draw attention to an important issue, but it's a large continuum. A job where you can't quit early is not the same as what's in Roots.

    Actual chattel slavery still is around in places, but only pretty marginal and lightly populated ones. Mauritania is an infamous example.

    Current estimates are 50m people living in these conditions today, vastly more than at any time in human history.

    Global population in 1 AD was around 200 million. 25% slaves isn't impossible. It kept going up from there and slavery wasn't seriously challenged as a concept until the 1700s.

    And going by absolute number instead of proportion is another lie with statistics you might be repeating. Yes, population has grown. What does that have to do with it?

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