California Attorney General Rob Bonta last night filed a request for a preliminary injunction in California’s existing case against Amazon for price fixing. Attorney General Bonta’s 2022 lawsuit alleged that the company stifled competition and caused increased prices across California through its anticompetitive policies in order to avoid competing on price with other retailers. New evidence paints a clearer and more shocking picture. The motion for a preliminary injunction comes after a robust discovery process where California uncovered evidence of countless interactions in which Amazon, vendors, and Amazon’s competitors agree to increase and fix the prices of products on other retail websites to bolster Amazon’s profits. Time and again, across years and product categories, Amazon has reached out to its vendors and instructed them to increase retail prices on competitors’ websites, threatening dire consequences if vendors do not comply. Vendors, bullied by Amazon’s overwhelming bargaining leverage and fearing punishment, comply — agreeing to raise prices on competitors’ websites (often with the awareness and cooperation of the competing retailer), or to remove products from competing websites altogether. Amazon’s goal is to insulate itself from price competition by preventing lower retail prices in the market at the expense of American consumers who are already struggling with a crisis of affordability.

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[+] 12 points 8 months ago (23 children)
  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    how far the mighty have fallen to be compared unfavorably to aliexpress. sheesh.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Aliexpress search results are garbage. A dozen knockoffs of the same thing, sorting doesn't work, and when you search for a specific part it shows you the price of the right product but the wrong variety.

    But it's cheaper than Amazon, cuts out Bezos, and for standard shipping is usually about as fast.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I cancelled prime a while back and I've been mostly trying to order direct from manufacturers when possible. Costs more but I figure that's the price of not contributing to a known bad actor in some small way.

    Thanks for the summary. I'll keep in in mind if I can't find a more direct route.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    First time using AliExpress I got scammed. I got a refund, at least, but I haven't been back since.

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  • [+] -13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    how did you get scammed if you got a refund?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know how AliExpress works internally. It was one of the apparently common scams where the seller pretends to ship a package to you. It's scam #5 in this list: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aliexpress/s/YEqwsP1ef6

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    hmmm don't know. I am sure there are scams out there, no doubt. But your situation is identical to a "lost in the mail" scenario.

    My point is that if AliExpress made you whole, all you lost was time. It sucks but I would not considered myself to be scammed if at the end of the day I have my money back.

    I don't think I would trust Ali or Amazon (which I rather not use, period) with anything over $100 just in case anyway.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

    LOL WTF are you talking about!? Virtually everything on AliExpress is a scam.

    E: God damn tankies at it again

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Seems to me like over half the crap on Amazon is just drop shipped AliExpress junk anyway. Why not cut out the middle asshole?

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (10 children)

    Do you think AliExpress is manufacturing all that shit? It's a digital storefront (middle asshole), just like Amazon. Difference is Amazon will refund just about anything with no questions asked. And actually attempts to crack down on straight scams. Ali will just tell you "better luck next time". Not to mention that they blocked my VPN so I couldn't buy from them if I wanted to.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Yeah it’s cutting out one of the middle assholes so it’s one instead of two. From the stuff I get recommended on Amazon it’s pretty clear they don’t care about false advertising either. Cant help you with your vpn problem though

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    It's not cutting out anyone, it's just a different middle asshole.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    No it’s cutting out Amazon, as the stuff on Amazon came from Aliexpress already.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Once again, AliExpress is not a manufacturer. It's a digital storefront. Just like Amazon. You're not cutting out anyone.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Yes, on Amazon it goes Manufacturer -> Aliexpress -> Amazon -> Consumer

    On Aliexpress it goes Manufacturer-> Aliexpress -> Consumer.

    Nobody is saying Aliexpress is a manufacturer, or that you’re cutting out all the middle men. You’re cutting out A middle man

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Yes, on Amazon it goes Manufacturer -> Aliexpress -> Amazon

    No. Why would anyone do that? Why wouldn't the OEM lost it on Amazon themselves? That makes no sense.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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    I tried buying from Aliexpress once, they rejected all of my credit cards, so I asked their support, who wanted documents from my bank, so I gave it to them, and crickets. Tried contacting them again, same issue, so I literally cannot buy anything from that site and now they have banking information of mine for no reason. Whereas Amazon just works.

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