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Discord delay global rollout of age verification to improve transparency and add more options (www.gamingonlinux.com)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca
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[–] 61 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Thank you for giving me more time to figure out alternatives

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I just found out about Fluxer today. I might tinker around and see if it’s any good.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    It definitely seems like the best competitor popping up. Familiar UI, nearly all essential features already functional, open source and self-hostable. I will say it feels like it came out of nowhere and having paid options out the gate feels a bit sketchy so I'm not completely placing any bets on it, but after trying it out for a bit I've been liking it far more than any other alternative.

    Matrix is more mature and established but very clunky, confusing for casual users, and most clients are terrible. Stoat feels extremely dated and buggy, and it feels exactly the same as when I first tried it a year ago before the name change. Alternatives are few and far between and nothing really excels just yet, but Fluxer feels the most promising.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    The timing with Fluxer is very fortuitous, it's been in development for years but only just got public which is why it seems to have come out of nowhere. I am with you on the money bit, but it comes down to how it gets used. I haven't looked into how transparent the finances are. I understand the need to rustle up money fast in order to scale up development, as a proper Discord competitor needs to be more than a one-man effort. So I'm hoping that's what the money will go to.

    I agree that Fluxer is by far the best alternative yet, so I want to be hopeful.

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  • [+] 5 points 8 months ago (7 children)
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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Nether of them are your friends. Fluxor seems a bit sketchy with their limited time cash grab of lifetime memberships, and GitHub history compression. Stoat is basically discord 8 years ago and is in the UK where age verification is law. It has time to change and their privacy policy doesn't look great (they also collect information from you).

    Fluxor could be fine, I am just skeptical of it at the moment.

    Stoat is better than discord, but not by much.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago*

    No, the red flag is being 'self-hostable', but trying to concentrate all your users in a central, non-federated, monetised instance.

    Also, we cannot verify how long they where in development because they squashed their git commits. There's usually no good reason to do that.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Movim seems like a much better option, they just need a few weeks to get a couple of extra features out

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Tell me more?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    https://movim.eu/

    It's based on XMPP, which means it's open-source, federated, and has E2EE in private chats. It also supports video calls, including in groups (which most other Discord alternatives have problems with).

    Also, there's no phone number or even email requirement to sign up. You can set a recovery email, but you can skip that step during setup. Just pick a server, username, and password

    The main thing it's missing right now is "places" aka what Discord calls servers/guilds. But they're currently working to roll that feature out soon

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    https://slrpnk.net/post/34490207

    haven't gotten around to trying it myself. But the fact that it's built on XMPP is cool, and I hate that that all these new clients seem to develop their own new standards rather than build off what already exists.

    Sounds like movim as a project has been around for a while, but recently moved to be more discord like in intention, so it's picked up interest there.

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