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Judge scolds Mark Zuckerberg's team for wearing Meta glasses to social media trial (www.cbsnews.com)
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[–] 61 points 8 months ago (55 children)

The sales of the glasses have been better than their VR headset which has really made them double down on the glasses as they see big potential. That said, I really think that it is a false hope as I suspect the market that is ok wearing Facebook glasses are small, but loyal.

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    These things should not be protected property. If you assault my privacy, I should be allowed to attack back.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Most countries it's legal to record in public, as there's no reasonable expectation of privacy. Though these are a bit different than say someone with a phone or camera, as unless you pay close attention the glasses are easy to miss....

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    These glasses cams are small enough to no longer be visible as a camera.

    I'm all for freedom to record outside but this is a step too far as this is not me making a video for me, this is Facebook using idiots to record the world 24/7 for them.

    I'm fine with humans recording humans, immnot fine with companies recording me

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I disagree. Secretly recording someone with a phone is much easier than doing it with one of these. It's the same issue people had with Google Glass back in the day.

    I think the reason it feels creepier is because, if you're talking with someone that's wearing them, it feels like they're sticking a camera in your face.

    But like I could turn on my phone camera, leave it sticking out of my pocket, and record everyone taking a piss in a public restroom with nobody noticing. If I tried to do that with glasses, I'd have to turn my head towards everyone's cock, one at a time. The neck pain alone makes it not worth the effort.

    But to be clear, fuck Meta. These glasses should be banned for many other reasons.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Agree with you for the most part.

    Though your example of a public toilet is a bit flawed, since there IS a reasonable expectation of privacy.

    Google Glass was waaaaaaaaaay more obvious.

    Where the meta ones are a little less so.

    Depending on lighting, and distance from the Glasshole, could be really hard to spot the Meta ones.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    Agreed. My friend has a pair of the meta glasses and i didn’t even realize they were meta glasses until he told me. The camera isn’t very noticeable unless you know what you’re looking for.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You have no assumed privacy in a public space. How long is it going to take people to learn this.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    Depends where you are.

    Germany, for example, has laws that make it illegal to record people in public doing things that could embarrass or demean them.

    Japan made google throw out their original streetview data and do it again with a shorter pole so that it didn't look over people's fences.

    Different countries have different laws.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I've seen some amazing POV footage from them, because the lens is actually in line with your eye level.

    So, a lot of the market would be people who would otherwise use a GoPro.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (37 children)

    yahknow, if it wern't for the fact that i know they're a scummy company, i'd try them.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (31 children)

    just wait patiently for valve to make some

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  • [+] -9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (30 children)

    ... Spoiler for you, but Valve is a shitty company.

    Edit: whoosh the fanbois are out there! We don't share the same value if you think it's ok for 10 years old to become gambling addicts because of Valve's practices.

    I deleted my Reddit account because it is increasingly becoming an echo chamber cesspool of extreme centrism. I was hoping Lemmy would be somehow better with people more prone to discuss. Ho, well

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    Maybe just maybe it's because it's not as black or white as you make it seem? Especially talking about a company that did so much for Linux and looking at what their competition is doing....

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I feel like you're straw-manning here.

    I never said it's okay. All I'm saying is that a mega-corporation can simultaneously exploit psychological loopholes for profit (loot boxes) while actively pushing open-source ecosystems (Linux), providing great value to consumers and fighting other pc gaming monopolies (Microsoft). Look at the whole picture.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    It's not.

    Look, you are not necessarily wrong in holding the opinion that Valve's monetization practices are so horrible, that they ruin the company's entire reputation. It's a valid moral boundary. But at the end of the day, it's just an opinion, not some objective law of the universe and other people can weigh the scales differently without being an evil person. Yet you portray it as the TRUTH. And it's a bit ironic, that when people disagreed you started talking about echo chambers and attacking the community. This is why you got downvoted.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Wtf is wrong with you, lot? It seems like when you say "valve is a shitty company" is the equivalent of saying "gaben is evil incarnate and eats baby for breakfast".

    I'm starting to get sick of red pilled people commenting here saying it is an extremist view to say that a company is shitty because they have shitty practices. I'm done responding if that's your comment, so spare us both time. All you're doing is either purposefully misinterpreting my comment or acting like fan boys.

    It's not difficult or controversial. Does valve make some good things? Yes. Do they make shitty things? Yes. Not hard.

    Plus, I truly think most of the people here are completely ignorant of the issue and should probably look into Coffeezilla series before commenting.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Valve is a shitty company.

    Does valve make some good things? Yes. Do they make shitty things? Yes. Not hard.

    You just stated the exact nuanced position I was defending from the very beginning, while simultaneously insulting me for holding it 😂

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So you're saying that since a company is reprehensible in one area, all their other accomplishments should be judged accordingly?

    Makes sense to me.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Answer the question.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I don't like your attitude. I'm agreeing with you that it is not morally acceptable , and an actor should be judged by the worst of what they're currently doing, not just sweep it under the rug.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I agree with you, but I get where the rabid fanboyism is coming from. The lack of competition in tech due to a variety of bullshit reasons (mostly corruption, look what Biden's FTC was trying to do compared to Trump 2's mask-off approach) have people pissed off and angry at the monopolists. Valve just so happens to be the least-bad monopolist in tech, so people like them.

    People need to get competition-pilled, so they realize that Valve isn't our savior, and are in fact part of the problem too. They might be considered "good" today, but that's because our standards have never been so low.

    Things can be, and should be better.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    i can see why you are banned, posting misinformation/disinformation with nothing to back it uo with.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    https://youtu.be/v6jhjjVy5Ls

    Now I'll wait for you to apologize and and acknowledge you did not have any idea of what you were talking about before commenting. I'll let you throw day, so you can go through the entire series.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (2 children)

    it's been like that for years, you act like valve was the masterminded the gambling sites, crazy.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Ho, so because it's been like that, it's ok?

    Edit: don't even bother answering, you're a clown.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    Selective reader I see, another reason why you were disliked on reddit to the point you felt the need to move on, I'll assume this goes for a lot of other places as well based on your disposition when talking with not only me but others on here.

    Go paint some minis and find a new 4chan dude, only place you'll fit in without an atitude adjustment.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Why? Are they useful for anything other than proping up surveillance state?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    What's the different between that and everyone having their phone's out all the time, those little guys are already able to spy on, you know they do stuff other then record stuff right, they get text readout on the lenses and stuff right? Also can you not read, I specificly wrote I wouldn't getting because of their bad reputation.

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