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[–] 47 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Probably not the most unhinged but a few weeks ago a coworker told me that Trump is the only president in history whose net worth went down after becoming president.

He's not FAR right so I usually hear him out and use kid gloves to counter his arguments but I involuntarily replied, "are you out of your fucking mind?!"

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Sympathies. That tightrope walk of dealing with someone who is misinformed but not malicious is tough. It's important to challenge them, but not so stridently as to teach them not to engage with you, as you don't want them to retreat further into that space. I wish I were more successful at it, but my mouth tends to outrun my brain. How did your colleague react to that reality check?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    I actually find it quite rewarding. Not to give myself too much credit but multiple people on the right have told me I'm very easy to talk politics because I'm not outwardly judgemental when I disagree. As for this specific reality check, both of us were on our way to meetings so we shelved it. We talk politics every once in awhile and I've been able to change his mind on a lot of things.

    Here are some tips for talking with the "soft right" (or anyone you disagree with, really):

    1. Understand their concern before you talk about the solution, you will probably find common ground to start from.

    2. LISTEN TO THEM. Ask questions! It's not a lecture, you're having a conversation.

    3. Be smart about how you disagree. "You are wrong because of X Y Z" makes you sound like an asshole, "I'm not so sure I agree with X Y Z" shows that you're at least considering their opinion.

    4. You don't know everything so be honest. "I don't know enough to speak on it confidently" or "I can't remember where I heard this so take it with a grain of salt.." AND if you later find out you were wrong, follow up. "Hey yesterday I told you X, it's actually Y [link]"

    5. If they want to back out of the conversation, let them. Maybe you've given them enough to think about for the day.

    At the very least, be the person that makes them think, "the left isn't all bad"

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I actually had a friend be baffled by me saying Gavin Newsom was a neo-liberal, he swore that Gavin was this ultra leftist and by not liking him I "proved no one's Left enough for me."

    Fuck me for wanting a President who doesn't meet up with Charlie Kirk and pals on a podcast to talk about how transpeople eat puppies.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    He's what the right thinks of when they think of a democrat. Very corporate

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I thought when the Right thought of a Democrat, they thought of a purple haired hippie wearing a pussy hat and a health mask on a college campus who wears his pronouns on a name tag at all times.....a caricature that doesn't actually represent any group that actually exists.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    We likely went from no actual money if you include all the loans to a literal billionaire from the presidency. His crypto bribes alone made him more money than he previously ever made. Now he is suing the taxpayers for 10.3B dollars.

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