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[–] -1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

You ignored that the studies were all for different allergies… so you can’t just take 4 “nos” and 1 “yes” as a no for all.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    The studies in that mini-review did not investigate different allergies. They each focused on different symptoms; either skin inflammation or mucosa inflammation (conjunctiva, nose, sinuses). The allergen responsible was not characterized.

    The only paper that looked at a specific allergy is the one I cited.

    I could also cite multiple studies showing that use of bee products can make allergies worse.

    https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/26/24/12074

    https://www.jacionline.org/article/0091-6749(79)90143-X/pdf

    https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/7/3/250.full.pdf

    https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/48090614/j.aller.2009.12.00320160816-9724-1n7hmnh-libre.pdf?1471351425=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DBee_pollen_a_dangerous_food_for_allergic.pdf&Expires=1771343622&Signature=QwHfgQ54yFKvSmv6fCWbdNP%7EQonKSLfnQIL4xf1CC1UAr3vgnO0PrSFd%7EkaDcgQPIWIjSf8Ljv8ln8%7EKHFUefmo5NA28rAY6-rAs7gL3wTvoixaFwYtzQFZet2QFlc16CdlZE6qXk5o7tBnrKDz9IDTFiCjnXvs%7ENdmpDdwmoNeYNy5T8KQpL1dXvXOp6UsnWN0RmFMfL5drkKkzEgUI9M1s%7EtrmlnwWirH4zyzszHndreMJz651ZAJADzkKvxyD9XmLgIIqtFU4zqyb0R4kH%7EucgBIgAqIN2uogmmIbeT2J%7E8dgmxrSZ4qhyvVGLXou7dj6Mf2pzK4%7ESXKe1Jqs%7Eg__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA

    There are more, too.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    They literally did study different allergies. Are you just looking at some other paper than the one I linked? They literally have a column that states the allergic diseases that they studied.

    You seem to be talking about specific allergens which I never said.

    Allergies tested:

    • Atopic Dermatitis
    • Allergic rhinitis
    • Allergic Fungal Rhinosinusitis
    • Allergic rhinoconjunctivitis
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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    This may just be a language thing. Those aren't allergies to me, they are symptoms of allergies.

    To me, allergies are things like a peanut allergy, penicillin allergy, latex allergy, etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    The paper calls them allergies, and has a column for them. I’m going to go with what the scientists say.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    The paper literally doesnt call them allergies. It says "allergic disease", which is an effect (i.e., symptom) of an allergy.

    http://www.columbia.edu/itc/hs/medical/pathophys/immunology/2004/misc/articles/NEJM_allergy_aller_dis_02.pdf

    And like I mentioned before, 4/5 of those studies dont show an improvement due to honey over a control group. The fifth study, I can access, but it doesnt even have a control, and it's not testing just honey, anyway.

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