In part I was responding to the thread as a whole, not just you so sorry for any confusion. You’re right, Mandela was saying that only after a certain point a few more extreme measures were required. I just don’t want people playing into the hand of the current administration. If they have to lie about what the protesters are doing then their position is a lot weaker than it would be telling the truth. Yes they’ll try and spin the narrative, but we’ve got a better shot not freely giving it to them