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don't forget to vote (quokk.au)
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[–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If they don't get the riot they want, they'll just stage one with paid actors and instigators planted in the crowd. Or they'll just skip the whole thing and post some AI bullshit as 'proof' of the riots.

Remaining peaceful at all costs gains us nothing.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    We still have to get out and take to the streets, we have to be disobedient, but we cannot turn violent. You’re ceding them the power that there’s no point if they’ll do what the want anyway, but the reality is that if we keep sustained peaceful protest we’ll get too much support from the rest of the country for them to continue. If we turn violent the “nonpolitical folk” will be able to keep their heads in the sand longer

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    If we turn violent the “nonpolitical folk” will be able to keep their heads in the sand longer

    That's just it, though. It doesn't have to be us that turns violent. It just has to look like us. And these fascists are very much willing and capable of doing false flag operations to 'justify' everything they want to do. They'll plant some of their people in the crowd, commit violence, and then flood the media with endlessly repeated pictures and video of that violence. (Or they'll make some bullshit AI video of 'leftist violence' and skip the extra steps.) And the "nonpolitical folk" you're trying to court will eat that shit up, breakfast lunch and dinner, without the slightest hint of critical thought.

    You can complain about 'ceding them the power' all you want ... but they already do have the power to do this. And they'll do it. Guaranteed.

    But that's okay. The struggle isn't over when they declare martial law and enact their brutal crackdowns. That's when the real struggle begins.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Let’s not give it to them freely though. If they’re going to lie, make them lie, don’t let it be the truth, it makes their position a lot weaker. There is still hope we can stop them. The fact they want ICE around the polls for intimidation means they’re worried about us voting, it’s not over yet. They don’t have all the power

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