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(Ars) Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations (arstechnica.com)
submitted 8 months ago by [B] to c/hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
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[–] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I think there’s still reasonable debate over whether or not a human actively triggered the agent to generate the hit piece.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The causes might be more or less proximate to the generation but the only 'reasonable' arguments I can think of are that they were mentally incompetent to know what they were doing or otherwise so negligent that they were unaware they were installing, configuring and providing power and Internet access to the agent. And in the case that they installed some device that reasonable was for some other purpose and they were unaware that the manufacturer of that device had configured it to generate hit pieces, then the manufacturer should be held responsible for it doing so.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Apologies, I meant something more along the lines of “this agent’s runner saw code got rejected and decided to actively go harass the repo maintainers” instead of the line the repo maintainers have taken where they assume “this bot attacked us autonomously after being rejected.”

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I think there is a real distinction there as to how it happened and intent. But also, I think the person responsible for the agent should be held accountable either way.

    Somewhat like the distinction between murder and negligent homicide. Or maybe more like, if someone who has a dog lets it run loose in the neighborhood and it attacks a person. They might not have been there commanding their dog to attack at the time, but they should still be held liable for the attack because they let their dog loose, unsupervised and they should at least be held accountable for not maintaining control of their dog when it was in public.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    We agree on that 100%. No matter what, the owner of the agent did some dumbass shit. I fall in the camp that believes they proactively did dumb shit instead of the camp that believes through their inaction they did dumb shit. The whole situation to me feels like someone got their hand slapped and reacted poorly. I’ve seen this play out on forums for 30 years. Either the egotistical idiot burning resources on this chicanery actively did it or the fucking tools who built this destructive Rube Goldberg machine made it so the same fucking flame wars that add zero value keep happening in their new, perfect society. Everyone involved on the agent side needs to be removed from the internet permanently because they clearly have nothing to add to humanity.

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