▲ 346 ▼ [Video] Interview with released hostage Greta Thunberg. Greta refuses to make it about herself and keeps mentioning the suffering of Palestinians. (files.catbox.moe) submitted 1 year ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world 79 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (17 children) What has she done that you believe is immature? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (16 children) I didn’t say I believe she is immature. I said I feel there is an argument to be had that the way she goes about doing things can do more harm than good and border on immature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (7 children) Can you provide an example, even a hyperbole, that would support this stance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (6 children) https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19134994 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (5 children) The “both sides” argument is an argument for only one side. You’re just a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -15 points 1 year ago (4 children) Again, I don’t think you actually read my comment. I literally said what she is doing is good and I don’t think people can argue against that but that I understood why people are pissed about how she is going about it. But if I you think I am a coward for speaking my mind then you need to rethink your priorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) You’re not a coward for speaking your mind, you’re a coward for not taking a stance. You’re doing nothing and complaining about others doing something. Get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago I did take a stance. You just can’t read or automatically disagree with anything that doesn’t fit your worldview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago Only pro israel and people who believe that climatic change is a hoax thst hate her permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago Juts sounds like hedging to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) And an example of that would be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (6 children) I dont feel like you are reading what I am saying. I can see both sides. I’m not arguing for either one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children) You claim that you "feel there is an argument to be had that the way she goes about doing things can do more harm than good and border on immature." I'm asking for what the evidence supporting immaturity would be in that argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I am really not getting what is so hard to understand about what I said or why people in this thread really want to fight about it but I guess I’ll say it again; I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message and I am willing to listen to them. I am not arguing either side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message And people are simply asking you to provide an example of why people might be pissed. Since you said you understand why. You refuse to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Of course I refuse. Why would I engage with people who don’t get that I was responding to someone who was discounting others’ opinions because they disagree with them and then everyone did that to me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Sure. You're just badmouthing one side and not the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I can understand what you're saying, but one side is irredeemably evil and the other wants the evil to stop. Equivocating between the two is support for the former. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (16 children) I didn’t say I believe she is immature. I said I feel there is an argument to be had that the way she goes about doing things can do more harm than good and border on immature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (7 children) Can you provide an example, even a hyperbole, that would support this stance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (6 children) https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19134994 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (5 children) The “both sides” argument is an argument for only one side. You’re just a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -15 points 1 year ago (4 children) Again, I don’t think you actually read my comment. I literally said what she is doing is good and I don’t think people can argue against that but that I understood why people are pissed about how she is going about it. But if I you think I am a coward for speaking my mind then you need to rethink your priorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) You’re not a coward for speaking your mind, you’re a coward for not taking a stance. You’re doing nothing and complaining about others doing something. Get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago I did take a stance. You just can’t read or automatically disagree with anything that doesn’t fit your worldview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago Only pro israel and people who believe that climatic change is a hoax thst hate her permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago Juts sounds like hedging to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) And an example of that would be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (6 children) I dont feel like you are reading what I am saying. I can see both sides. I’m not arguing for either one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children) You claim that you "feel there is an argument to be had that the way she goes about doing things can do more harm than good and border on immature." I'm asking for what the evidence supporting immaturity would be in that argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I am really not getting what is so hard to understand about what I said or why people in this thread really want to fight about it but I guess I’ll say it again; I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message and I am willing to listen to them. I am not arguing either side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message And people are simply asking you to provide an example of why people might be pissed. Since you said you understand why. You refuse to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Of course I refuse. Why would I engage with people who don’t get that I was responding to someone who was discounting others’ opinions because they disagree with them and then everyone did that to me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Sure. You're just badmouthing one side and not the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I can understand what you're saying, but one side is irredeemably evil and the other wants the evil to stop. Equivocating between the two is support for the former. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (7 children) Can you provide an example, even a hyperbole, that would support this stance? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (6 children) https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19134994 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (5 children) The “both sides” argument is an argument for only one side. You’re just a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -15 points 1 year ago (4 children) Again, I don’t think you actually read my comment. I literally said what she is doing is good and I don’t think people can argue against that but that I understood why people are pissed about how she is going about it. But if I you think I am a coward for speaking my mind then you need to rethink your priorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) You’re not a coward for speaking your mind, you’re a coward for not taking a stance. You’re doing nothing and complaining about others doing something. Get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago I did take a stance. You just can’t read or automatically disagree with anything that doesn’t fit your worldview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago Only pro israel and people who believe that climatic change is a hoax thst hate her permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago Juts sounds like hedging to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (6 children) https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19134994 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (5 children) The “both sides” argument is an argument for only one side. You’re just a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -15 points 1 year ago (4 children) Again, I don’t think you actually read my comment. I literally said what she is doing is good and I don’t think people can argue against that but that I understood why people are pissed about how she is going about it. But if I you think I am a coward for speaking my mind then you need to rethink your priorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) You’re not a coward for speaking your mind, you’re a coward for not taking a stance. You’re doing nothing and complaining about others doing something. Get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago I did take a stance. You just can’t read or automatically disagree with anything that doesn’t fit your worldview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago Only pro israel and people who believe that climatic change is a hoax thst hate her permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago Juts sounds like hedging to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (5 children) The “both sides” argument is an argument for only one side. You’re just a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -15 points 1 year ago (4 children) Again, I don’t think you actually read my comment. I literally said what she is doing is good and I don’t think people can argue against that but that I understood why people are pissed about how she is going about it. But if I you think I am a coward for speaking my mind then you need to rethink your priorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) You’re not a coward for speaking your mind, you’re a coward for not taking a stance. You’re doing nothing and complaining about others doing something. Get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago I did take a stance. You just can’t read or automatically disagree with anything that doesn’t fit your worldview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago Only pro israel and people who believe that climatic change is a hoax thst hate her permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago Juts sounds like hedging to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -15 points 1 year ago (4 children) Again, I don’t think you actually read my comment. I literally said what she is doing is good and I don’t think people can argue against that but that I understood why people are pissed about how she is going about it. But if I you think I am a coward for speaking my mind then you need to rethink your priorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) You’re not a coward for speaking your mind, you’re a coward for not taking a stance. You’re doing nothing and complaining about others doing something. Get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago I did take a stance. You just can’t read or automatically disagree with anything that doesn’t fit your worldview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago Only pro israel and people who believe that climatic change is a hoax thst hate her permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago Juts sounds like hedging to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) You’re not a coward for speaking your mind, you’re a coward for not taking a stance. You’re doing nothing and complaining about others doing something. Get fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago I did take a stance. You just can’t read or automatically disagree with anything that doesn’t fit your worldview. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 year ago I did take a stance. You just can’t read or automatically disagree with anything that doesn’t fit your worldview. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago Only pro israel and people who believe that climatic change is a hoax thst hate her permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago Juts sounds like hedging to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (7 children) And an example of that would be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (6 children) I dont feel like you are reading what I am saying. I can see both sides. I’m not arguing for either one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children) You claim that you "feel there is an argument to be had that the way she goes about doing things can do more harm than good and border on immature." I'm asking for what the evidence supporting immaturity would be in that argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I am really not getting what is so hard to understand about what I said or why people in this thread really want to fight about it but I guess I’ll say it again; I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message and I am willing to listen to them. I am not arguing either side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message And people are simply asking you to provide an example of why people might be pissed. Since you said you understand why. You refuse to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Of course I refuse. Why would I engage with people who don’t get that I was responding to someone who was discounting others’ opinions because they disagree with them and then everyone did that to me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Sure. You're just badmouthing one side and not the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I can understand what you're saying, but one side is irredeemably evil and the other wants the evil to stop. Equivocating between the two is support for the former. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -14 points 1 year ago (6 children) I dont feel like you are reading what I am saying. I can see both sides. I’m not arguing for either one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children) You claim that you "feel there is an argument to be had that the way she goes about doing things can do more harm than good and border on immature." I'm asking for what the evidence supporting immaturity would be in that argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I am really not getting what is so hard to understand about what I said or why people in this thread really want to fight about it but I guess I’ll say it again; I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message and I am willing to listen to them. I am not arguing either side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message And people are simply asking you to provide an example of why people might be pissed. Since you said you understand why. You refuse to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Of course I refuse. Why would I engage with people who don’t get that I was responding to someone who was discounting others’ opinions because they disagree with them and then everyone did that to me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Sure. You're just badmouthing one side and not the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I can understand what you're saying, but one side is irredeemably evil and the other wants the evil to stop. Equivocating between the two is support for the former. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children) You claim that you "feel there is an argument to be had that the way she goes about doing things can do more harm than good and border on immature." I'm asking for what the evidence supporting immaturity would be in that argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I am really not getting what is so hard to understand about what I said or why people in this thread really want to fight about it but I guess I’ll say it again; I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message and I am willing to listen to them. I am not arguing either side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message And people are simply asking you to provide an example of why people might be pissed. Since you said you understand why. You refuse to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Of course I refuse. Why would I engage with people who don’t get that I was responding to someone who was discounting others’ opinions because they disagree with them and then everyone did that to me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Sure. You're just badmouthing one side and not the other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (3 children) I am really not getting what is so hard to understand about what I said or why people in this thread really want to fight about it but I guess I’ll say it again; I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message and I am willing to listen to them. I am not arguing either side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message And people are simply asking you to provide an example of why people might be pissed. Since you said you understand why. You refuse to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Of course I refuse. Why would I engage with people who don’t get that I was responding to someone who was discounting others’ opinions because they disagree with them and then everyone did that to me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Sure. You're just badmouthing one side and not the other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see why people are pissed about how she goes about spreading an otherwise good message And people are simply asking you to provide an example of why people might be pissed. Since you said you understand why. You refuse to do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Of course I refuse. Why would I engage with people who don’t get that I was responding to someone who was discounting others’ opinions because they disagree with them and then everyone did that to me? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Of course I refuse. Why would I engage with people who don’t get that I was responding to someone who was discounting others’ opinions because they disagree with them and then everyone did that to me? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Sure. You're just badmouthing one side and not the other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I can understand what you're saying, but one side is irredeemably evil and the other wants the evil to stop. Equivocating between the two is support for the former. permalink fedilink source parent