▲ 310 ▼ 'There's no reason for Discord to comply in advance' with social media age verification laws instead of 'fighting for their users' says EFF expert (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 9 months ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/technology@piefed.social 65 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (26 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 9 months ago (25 children) They absolutely are. Astro-turfing is a well established and effective practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 9 months ago (24 children) In places with a real audience, sure. I'm not convinced it happens to any meaningful degree here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 9 months ago (11 children) In spaces that tend to run leftist where the number of people required to stir shit is infinitely smaller than somewhere like reddit or Facebook? Why? All they have to do is show up and say something stupid and 100 people will parrot them here and on more prominent social media. They literally get more bang for their buck doing it here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago* (10 children) Because having an insignificantly small group of people stirred up provides an insignificant advantage. Also much more information about the people posting is publically available here than any corporate owned platform. Do you have any actual, credible evidence of astroturfing on ActivityPub? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (9 children) I strongly disagree. Disrupting niche communities on the edge of the left and propagating harmful narratives is an incredibly effective strategy. Look at all the people who were on here around the elections in 2024 encouraging people not to vote. Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. Honestly, believe it or don't. I don't really care. I'm not about to make a concerted effort to convince you. It's not a thesis. To me it seems pretty self-evident that what we know is happening on larger social media would also be happening here, where there's a much juicer target. Also, like, the effort they put in isn't exactly stellar. Ducks quack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) What's the signal to noise ratio on Facebook? Do you know how to reliably get a message out to your followers that won't get diverted because of the algorithm? Now what about Lemmy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (5 children) Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. That was being spread on the major platforms as well. And those messages were coming from server admins here too -- are you suggesting db0 is a psyop? There's no evidence that any action on ActivityPub translates to meaningful results in that election. I know you feel like it's true, and you're welcome to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (4 children) Useful idiots abound on social media, including Lemmy. Every user who echoes astro-turfing doesn't need to be a paid actor. That's the whole reason anyone does it anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago (11 children) It does. Source: The fucking reports screen every time I log in and my instance isn't even large. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (10 children) Got a few examples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) Nope, I treat reports as confidential. Well, "every time" was a bit of an exaggeration, cause I mostly get spam or "I disagree with this so I report it" reports, but astro turfing does happen multiple times a month. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (8 children) Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children) Are you paid or just a troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 9 months ago (25 children) They absolutely are. Astro-turfing is a well established and effective practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 9 months ago (24 children) In places with a real audience, sure. I'm not convinced it happens to any meaningful degree here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 9 months ago (11 children) In spaces that tend to run leftist where the number of people required to stir shit is infinitely smaller than somewhere like reddit or Facebook? Why? All they have to do is show up and say something stupid and 100 people will parrot them here and on more prominent social media. They literally get more bang for their buck doing it here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago* (10 children) Because having an insignificantly small group of people stirred up provides an insignificant advantage. Also much more information about the people posting is publically available here than any corporate owned platform. Do you have any actual, credible evidence of astroturfing on ActivityPub? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (9 children) I strongly disagree. Disrupting niche communities on the edge of the left and propagating harmful narratives is an incredibly effective strategy. Look at all the people who were on here around the elections in 2024 encouraging people not to vote. Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. Honestly, believe it or don't. I don't really care. I'm not about to make a concerted effort to convince you. It's not a thesis. To me it seems pretty self-evident that what we know is happening on larger social media would also be happening here, where there's a much juicer target. Also, like, the effort they put in isn't exactly stellar. Ducks quack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) What's the signal to noise ratio on Facebook? Do you know how to reliably get a message out to your followers that won't get diverted because of the algorithm? Now what about Lemmy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (5 children) Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. That was being spread on the major platforms as well. And those messages were coming from server admins here too -- are you suggesting db0 is a psyop? There's no evidence that any action on ActivityPub translates to meaningful results in that election. I know you feel like it's true, and you're welcome to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (4 children) Useful idiots abound on social media, including Lemmy. Every user who echoes astro-turfing doesn't need to be a paid actor. That's the whole reason anyone does it anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago (11 children) It does. Source: The fucking reports screen every time I log in and my instance isn't even large. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (10 children) Got a few examples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) Nope, I treat reports as confidential. Well, "every time" was a bit of an exaggeration, cause I mostly get spam or "I disagree with this so I report it" reports, but astro turfing does happen multiple times a month. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (8 children) Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children) Are you paid or just a troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -3 points 9 months ago (24 children) In places with a real audience, sure. I'm not convinced it happens to any meaningful degree here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 24 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 9 months ago (11 children) In spaces that tend to run leftist where the number of people required to stir shit is infinitely smaller than somewhere like reddit or Facebook? Why? All they have to do is show up and say something stupid and 100 people will parrot them here and on more prominent social media. They literally get more bang for their buck doing it here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago* (10 children) Because having an insignificantly small group of people stirred up provides an insignificant advantage. Also much more information about the people posting is publically available here than any corporate owned platform. Do you have any actual, credible evidence of astroturfing on ActivityPub? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (9 children) I strongly disagree. Disrupting niche communities on the edge of the left and propagating harmful narratives is an incredibly effective strategy. Look at all the people who were on here around the elections in 2024 encouraging people not to vote. Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. Honestly, believe it or don't. I don't really care. I'm not about to make a concerted effort to convince you. It's not a thesis. To me it seems pretty self-evident that what we know is happening on larger social media would also be happening here, where there's a much juicer target. Also, like, the effort they put in isn't exactly stellar. Ducks quack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) What's the signal to noise ratio on Facebook? Do you know how to reliably get a message out to your followers that won't get diverted because of the algorithm? Now what about Lemmy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (5 children) Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. That was being spread on the major platforms as well. And those messages were coming from server admins here too -- are you suggesting db0 is a psyop? There's no evidence that any action on ActivityPub translates to meaningful results in that election. I know you feel like it's true, and you're welcome to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (4 children) Useful idiots abound on social media, including Lemmy. Every user who echoes astro-turfing doesn't need to be a paid actor. That's the whole reason anyone does it anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago (11 children) It does. Source: The fucking reports screen every time I log in and my instance isn't even large. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (10 children) Got a few examples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) Nope, I treat reports as confidential. Well, "every time" was a bit of an exaggeration, cause I mostly get spam or "I disagree with this so I report it" reports, but astro turfing does happen multiple times a month. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (8 children) Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children) Are you paid or just a troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 9 months ago (11 children) In spaces that tend to run leftist where the number of people required to stir shit is infinitely smaller than somewhere like reddit or Facebook? Why? All they have to do is show up and say something stupid and 100 people will parrot them here and on more prominent social media. They literally get more bang for their buck doing it here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago* (10 children) Because having an insignificantly small group of people stirred up provides an insignificant advantage. Also much more information about the people posting is publically available here than any corporate owned platform. Do you have any actual, credible evidence of astroturfing on ActivityPub? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (9 children) I strongly disagree. Disrupting niche communities on the edge of the left and propagating harmful narratives is an incredibly effective strategy. Look at all the people who were on here around the elections in 2024 encouraging people not to vote. Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. Honestly, believe it or don't. I don't really care. I'm not about to make a concerted effort to convince you. It's not a thesis. To me it seems pretty self-evident that what we know is happening on larger social media would also be happening here, where there's a much juicer target. Also, like, the effort they put in isn't exactly stellar. Ducks quack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) What's the signal to noise ratio on Facebook? Do you know how to reliably get a message out to your followers that won't get diverted because of the algorithm? Now what about Lemmy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (5 children) Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. That was being spread on the major platforms as well. And those messages were coming from server admins here too -- are you suggesting db0 is a psyop? There's no evidence that any action on ActivityPub translates to meaningful results in that election. I know you feel like it's true, and you're welcome to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (4 children) Useful idiots abound on social media, including Lemmy. Every user who echoes astro-turfing doesn't need to be a paid actor. That's the whole reason anyone does it anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago* (10 children) Because having an insignificantly small group of people stirred up provides an insignificant advantage. Also much more information about the people posting is publically available here than any corporate owned platform. Do you have any actual, credible evidence of astroturfing on ActivityPub? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (9 children) I strongly disagree. Disrupting niche communities on the edge of the left and propagating harmful narratives is an incredibly effective strategy. Look at all the people who were on here around the elections in 2024 encouraging people not to vote. Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. Honestly, believe it or don't. I don't really care. I'm not about to make a concerted effort to convince you. It's not a thesis. To me it seems pretty self-evident that what we know is happening on larger social media would also be happening here, where there's a much juicer target. Also, like, the effort they put in isn't exactly stellar. Ducks quack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) What's the signal to noise ratio on Facebook? Do you know how to reliably get a message out to your followers that won't get diverted because of the algorithm? Now what about Lemmy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (5 children) Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. That was being spread on the major platforms as well. And those messages were coming from server admins here too -- are you suggesting db0 is a psyop? There's no evidence that any action on ActivityPub translates to meaningful results in that election. I know you feel like it's true, and you're welcome to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (4 children) Useful idiots abound on social media, including Lemmy. Every user who echoes astro-turfing doesn't need to be a paid actor. That's the whole reason anyone does it anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (9 children) I strongly disagree. Disrupting niche communities on the edge of the left and propagating harmful narratives is an incredibly effective strategy. Look at all the people who were on here around the elections in 2024 encouraging people not to vote. Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. Honestly, believe it or don't. I don't really care. I'm not about to make a concerted effort to convince you. It's not a thesis. To me it seems pretty self-evident that what we know is happening on larger social media would also be happening here, where there's a much juicer target. Also, like, the effort they put in isn't exactly stellar. Ducks quack. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) What's the signal to noise ratio on Facebook? Do you know how to reliably get a message out to your followers that won't get diverted because of the algorithm? Now what about Lemmy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (5 children) Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. That was being spread on the major platforms as well. And those messages were coming from server admins here too -- are you suggesting db0 is a psyop? There's no evidence that any action on ActivityPub translates to meaningful results in that election. I know you feel like it's true, and you're welcome to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (4 children) Useful idiots abound on social media, including Lemmy. Every user who echoes astro-turfing doesn't need to be a paid actor. That's the whole reason anyone does it anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) What's the signal to noise ratio on Facebook? Do you know how to reliably get a message out to your followers that won't get diverted because of the algorithm? Now what about Lemmy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) What's the signal to noise ratio on Facebook? Do you know how to reliably get a message out to your followers that won't get diverted because of the algorithm? Now what about Lemmy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (5 children) Given how many people echoed that sentiment, it seems like it was pretty effective. That was being spread on the major platforms as well. And those messages were coming from server admins here too -- are you suggesting db0 is a psyop? There's no evidence that any action on ActivityPub translates to meaningful results in that election. I know you feel like it's true, and you're welcome to feel that way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (4 children) Useful idiots abound on social media, including Lemmy. Every user who echoes astro-turfing doesn't need to be a paid actor. That's the whole reason anyone does it anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (4 children) Useful idiots abound on social media, including Lemmy. Every user who echoes astro-turfing doesn't need to be a paid actor. That's the whole reason anyone does it anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Nah I'm good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago Again, you're welcome to follow your feelings. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago (11 children) It does. Source: The fucking reports screen every time I log in and my instance isn't even large. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (10 children) Got a few examples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) Nope, I treat reports as confidential. Well, "every time" was a bit of an exaggeration, cause I mostly get spam or "I disagree with this so I report it" reports, but astro turfing does happen multiple times a month. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (8 children) Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children) Are you paid or just a troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 9 months ago (10 children) Got a few examples? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) Nope, I treat reports as confidential. Well, "every time" was a bit of an exaggeration, cause I mostly get spam or "I disagree with this so I report it" reports, but astro turfing does happen multiple times a month. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (8 children) Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children) Are you paid or just a troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) Nope, I treat reports as confidential. Well, "every time" was a bit of an exaggeration, cause I mostly get spam or "I disagree with this so I report it" reports, but astro turfing does happen multiple times a month. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (8 children) Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children) Are you paid or just a troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (8 children) Sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children) Are you paid or just a troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children) Are you paid or just a troll? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol -1 points 9 months ago (6 children) Just someone who can also see modlogs and knows why you aren't posting examples. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (5 children) Well, you still didn't answer whether you're paid for this trolling or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (4 children) I'm paid, this is astroturfing. You're being astroturfed right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (3 children) Great to have that sorted out. Have you considered doing something better with your life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) The irony is just whizzing over your head, huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) Come on, dude, your bullshit attempt didn't succeed, maybe it's time to move on? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 8 months ago Have you tried looking inwards? permalink fedilink source parent