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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 6 points 8 months ago (7 children)

The problem is that it only takes one ruler insane enough to use them to wipe out most of humanity.

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[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

You're right. But if that ruler does decide to nuke a city or something, the next bomb to drop will probably be where said ruler is.

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[–] kutt@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

It will inevitably happen. One day a dumb enough ruler will use it.

But what happens next? Do we just stop there, apologize and go back to our normal lives?

And you’re probably right, the next bomb would destroy that ruler, but only if the receiver has nukes as well. If he doesn’t, who’s going to do anything to defend/avange him? No one wants to enter an nuclear war.

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[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

The reciever doesn't need nukes. I live in Canada and we don't have any. But the threat of retaliation from our allies that do protect us from that threat.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If Trump decides to launch a nuke at Vancouver, which of your allies are bold enough to send one his way?

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[–] kutt@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago

Well, none. He can do whatever he wants.

His government is slightly smarter than him so for now we’re safe, however no one’s going to stop a dictator.

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[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

The US probably since they'll also be nuking part of their own country if they did that. The fallout would 100% affect Washington.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 8 months ago

You think Trump is smart enough to listen when his staff tell him that?

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[–] KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is a good point I never considered before.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

That comment is the first time you've considered MAD? I mean, congrats on being one of today's lucky 10,000, but I'm surprised you didn't learn about it in school.

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[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

Except the part where we have exhaustive evidence that nukes do not always render land unusable.

Nagasaki and Hiroshima are entirely fine. The radiation levels were back at safe levels in days. Yes, we definitely fucked up a lot of land with nuclear testing and power plant overloads, but the actual nukes humans have dropped on other humans? They're most effective when used in an air burst, and they clear up within days.

The power generation and medical applications of nuclear science cannot be overlooked based on warmongering, especially when the part youre concerned about isnt even an issue in that application of the field.