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Please for gods sake dont use CasaOS (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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  1. It is a For-profit without any means of Generating income (unlike Truenas or Suse which have a paid enterprise version)
  2. Since there is no way of making money, it is apparent they will pull a Plex and Enshittify once they have the noobs on board
  3. At least it uses docker, so you can export the images, but who knows when this will change
  4. It uses discord as forum. They cant even get themselves to use their own OS to install a matrix server on there.
  5. They are not even Private. Their FAQ literally says „They will try to limit data collection“

You want to use some shitty OS by some shitty company? Go sign your soul to Windows Server you lobotomite

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

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[–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What do you have against the project and the people behind it? It sounds personal.

There are plenty of non-commercial Linux distributions. Some managed better than others. Some generic, some with niches. OpenWRT is a favourite of mine.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Its my experience with server software for beginners in general, which gets my enshittification senses tingling. I just dont trust in a company providing a hell of a service (like, getting tens if not hundreds of docker images to work with the click of a button) for free.

    With Truenas I know that their community branch is an ad for their enterprise service because no single person will key thousands for the caliber of support their enterprise has, so they make their money by offering cloud services. So that explains how it is still feasable for them to give me their dataset and UI and everything frontend for free.

    But with Casa, I just dont know where the money comes from. I dont see how they can keep up their operations and make a profit with this kind of effort. So I can only assume that many non essential services will be put behind a paywall.

    And if they do it, I still know that they use docker and ZFS, and I can spend a day or 2 learning how to set up a software raid and an ssd as a ZFS buffer for it, and everything else i‘ve set up with their OS.

    But thats the problem: Beginners dont know. Its like with the Iphone: If the user dosent learn how to deploy a docker instance from a compose file themselves, they will be bound to that frontend and all the enshittification that happens to it.

    Therefore I would like it way more if Selfhosting was more like the AUR. First learn how the Process of pulling an image and makepkg‘ing works firsthand, then you can use the frontend like yay. Not the other way around.

    But if no one learns how to do something the old fashioned way and relies on a frontend for everything, at some point the company behind the frontend will vendor lock everyone into their system, since there is no competition anyway

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Beginners will always gravitate to what is easier.

    The upstream tools (Docker in this case) must orient themselves more towards the newbies, not only the pros, if we want to see the progress here.

    Personally, as a non-IT guy, I find myself fighting uphill battles every time I want to do something seemingly simple, because the basic tools we're offered are not made with common folk in mind. And I'm sort of an enthusiast - most people just won't bother if it's not plug&play, they don't have time and energy to figure everything out.

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