Unironically, yes. I don't know if you're trying to make that scenario sound ridiculous, but I can assure you that it very much is not. At least outside of the US.

It's not everyone at the moment, but the IT people who are paying attention are freaking the fuck out. I legitimately think Microsoft, AWS, and GCP will lose substantial market share overseas in the next 24 months.

Consider that much of the rest of the world has started trusting China more than the US. Now think about the US CLOUD Act. What person in their right mind is going to feel comfortable hosting their company's most sensitive data within jurisdictional reach of whatever the fuck is going on over there?

Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right?

The only social networks I willingly use are Fediverse instances, none I'm registered on are hosted in the US.

No device in my house runs Windows. Linux is an upgrade, I recommend it.

Things that rich people own manufacturing of?

As a socialist, I believe the working class must seize the means of production, and am doing my part in building that future for us all.

What about cars? They’re pretty much govt spyware now too.

Yes, I despise the 'smart' features shoved into cars, televisions, etc.. I am also active in /c/fuckcars, I am critical of their overuse and rarely use one.

Now, none of this is necessary for us to recognize that giving the US control of important infrastructure is dangerous. But you did ask. And many governments are also moving away from US infrastructure, although more slowly.

As for Starlink, its common use is the result of laziness and neglect. Satellite internet is clearly not the cheapest, fastest or most efficient for most of its customers to get modern internet infrastructure. Governments should be reducing their citizens' need for Starlink as a serious priority, by building internet infrastructure.

Yup. Hate all of them.

Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right

YES

What about cars?

/c/fuckcars

Just wondering how far this govt coercion hatred extends into everyday life.

A lot

Sir this is a-lemmy. We all hate Microslop, rich people and cars here.

Fuck cars is indeed a prevailing sentiment here and elsewhere, as it should be.

Yep people here hate windows. We hate cars, for reasons aside from spying as well they just generally suck.

Whataboutism

Him being a nazi pedophile is probably what most people take issue with.

Found Elon's alt

I already see this is going to be a fruitless discussion with those proposed discussion points. "His attempt to reduce government spending" 🤣 "attempt".

his Asperger’s

As an autistic person, don't you FUCKING DARE defend his use of that fucking card for the horrible way he acts.

What didn't make sense about his point?