Dagnet comments on Its not looking good..

[+] Dagnet@lemmy.world -7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So if I disagree that China is socialist it automatically means I think Chinese aren't people? My distrust of the statics is directly tied to the chienese government not the people. It make not make sense to you but it is possible to disagree with the government of a country without dehumanizing its people, I disagree with the government of the USA for example, and often my own country's.

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[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

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[+] Dagnet@lemmy.world -6 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

Does lemmy.ml represent the majority of the Chinese people? Do you? If you are talking statistics, that comes from the government not directly the people. And disagreeing does not dehumanize people, that is such an authoritarian view I can't even. You disagree with the majority of the western world about China, does that mean you are dehumanizing them?

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[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

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[+] Dagnet@lemmy.world -6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That blogsite doesnt have direct links to the sources, do you?

So you can disagree but I can't, interesting point of view.

Mind you, you have only talked about government approval so far, not perception of the state as socialist or not. But let me entertain you and pretend that is true (even though it is absurd). Lets also pretend that disagreeing with someone (only when it is me, you can apparently) dehumanizes people. 80% of the chinese people believe the country is a socialist country, disagreeing with them constitutes disagreeing with 80% of the country (by your flawed logic), does that me I dehumanized the ENTIRETY of the chinese people?

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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago*

Lmao, reducing Jason Hickel, a world renowned economic anthropologist, to 'just a blogsite' is hilarious.

Just a quick background from his wiki

Jason Edward Hickel[2] (born 1982) is a Swazi economic anthropologist, academic and democratic eco-socialist.[3] He is a professor at the Institute of Environmental Science & Technology (ICTA-UAB) at the Autonomous University of Barcelona,[4] a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, a visiting senior fellow at the International Inequalities Institute at the London School of Economics, and was the Chair of Global Justice and the Environment at the University of Oslo.[5] He serves on the Climate and Macroeconomics Roundtable of the US National Academy of Sciences.[6]

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[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

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[+] Dagnet@lemmy.world -6 points 9 months ago

Nothing about a country with over one billion people with many different ethnicities and continent sized land is easility verifiable.

"The views expressed in the Ash Center Policy Briefs Series are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect those of the John F. Kennedy School of Government or of Harvard Universi- ty" so okay, not really Havard's opinion or name behind the study

"While no single survey can adequately address all aspects of satisfaction levels in China, this brief identifies two important yet contrasting findings." Seems your own article disapproves of being used by itself to form opinions.

"Yet long-term, publicly-available, and nationally-representative surveys in mainland China are so rare that it is difficult to know how ordinary Chinese citizens feel about their government." Very insteresting "Although state censorship and propaganda are widespread" gotta love when your conclusion needs to mention this.

All in all no details for the actual methodology nor about the so called private company that perfomed the survey (since the institute apparently only created the survey itself).

Well, this is enough for me today, not gonna bother replying futher since you seem to be trying to waste my time and 'beat' me by tiring me with nonsense.